Harvest numbers info...

[Simpleman.2]

2,700 views on this thread....Six pages.

You do realize that there are probably that many, if not more views, who are NOT members here. Internet lurkers are not new, but it seems to fly right over the heads of so many these days.

My point flew right over your head. I know it's gotten a lot of attention. That's why I said it's on some personal level with y'all for some reason. If y'all were really worried about word getting out about the WMA then why talk about this publicly?

I've yet to see a topic on TnD fly over my head, much less a comment, don't fool yourself into thinking you're the first. It's not personal to me. I do not live anywhere near said WMA, nor have I ever stepped foot on it, because I see no need to, especially these days. With that said, there are numerous local resident public land hunters who see things way different than I do, and they would like to preserve what little enjoyment they have left. As I've mentioned before, this "advice" has been offered up at least twice since 2011, yet a select few can't seem to get it. As levee jumped eluded to above, you'd think public land etiquette would be common knowledge/common sense, but this thread disproves that theory without a doubt.

For the record, I've always supported Cat's videos and self taught hunting methods (very admirable), but if he, or others, do things to jeopardize fellow TN residents, such as himself, don't think myself and others won't point it out. As levee jumper eluded to, we've made these same asinine mistakes in our younger years. Take the advice, and learn from it, even if it ruffles feathers along the way. Fact is, we don't live long enough to make all the mistakes, why not learn from others?

Who's to say your "advice" is correct?....and I find it hilarious you bring up etiquette...Catman hasn't "jeopardized" anything.


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[Andy S.]

op: since the clowns have shown up!!!

:tu:

 

[th88]

Catman you just keep doing you. you just keep doing what your doing and don't worry about all the haters.

THIS.

His posts are actually how I discovered the WMA.

"Hmm..Newbie turkey limiting out on public land?!?! Gotta go there!" Watched the pressure increase, but I got my birds each trip. Some just can't hang with the public land grind. I'm used to it. I've watched multiple spots rise and fall with hunting pressure over the years. Nothing new. Catman wisened up with his posts and media. We've watched him turn into a dang good turkey hunter/outdoorsman. He puts out GREAT videos. He helps introduce folks to the outdoors. We NEED more folks like him with the nationwide trend of declining hunter numbers. And before you start your "IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THEY AIN'T DECLINING" bullcrap, these are hunting license sales. NOT turkey hunting licenses sales. I fully agree that turkey hunters are definitely a subset that is not declining.

I am simply amazed at the negativity and behavior displayed towards him on this forum. Ya'll are grown men. ACT LIKE IT.

On a side note, catman had posted a pic of his pop-up blind one year. I found it a day or two later, recognized it immediately, and sent him the pic via PM. :lol:

 

[Andy S.]

Catman you just keep doing you. you just keep doing what your doing and don't worry about all the haters.

THIS.

His posts are actually how I discovered the WMA.

"Hmm..Newbie turkey limiting out on public land?!?! Gotta go there!" Watched the pressure increase, but I got my birds each trip. Some just can't hang with the public land grind. I'm used to it. I've watched multiple spots rise and fall with hunting pressure over the years. Nothing new. Catman wisened up with his posts and media. We've watched him turn into a dang good turkey hunter/outdoorsman. He puts out GREAT videos. He helps introduce folks to the outdoors. We NEED more folks like him with the nationwide trend of declining hunter numbers. And before you start your "IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THEY AIN'T DECLINING" bullcrap, these are hunting license sales. NOT turkey hunting licenses sales. I fully agree that turkey hunters are definitely a subset that is not declining.

I am simply amazed at the negativity and behavior displayed towards him on this forum. Ya'll are grown men. ACT LIKE IT.

On a side note, catman had posted a pic of his pop-up blind one year. I found it a day or two later, recognized it immediately, and sent him the pic via PM. :lol:

Great post th88, except for the negativity comment. Telling the truth, and not sugar coating it, is far from negativity toward any one person, or curb stomping. Everyone read the post above closely. It proves the point many on here are trying to make to Cat and others who primarily hunt good public land. Hunt it, enjoy it, take your family and closest friends, but don't advertise it to the world if you want to keep enjoying what you discovered on your own. Many who portray themselves as your friend today, will be gone like the wind tomorrow as soon as your sought after public land resources dry up. Not all, but many.

Catman - keep killing it and producing great videos, but don't sell yourself short like so many on the web want you to do. My .02

 

[elknturkey]

Yeah I don't even tell close friends/family where I hunt. Ain't but 1 person that truly know my good spots and it took years of being around him before he gained that trust. I got burnt on that years ago by a "best" friend. I'll go with anyone that's wants me to call one up but it's too their spots and they do the shooting. I don't even take a gun.

Cat you're a good dude and hope you don't ever see the decline but it's definitely real. If you look at almost every state they're all in a decline. It seems turkey populations peaked at the same time everywhere across the US and now most are in a decline especially the southern states since they've had a strong turkey hunting tradition for a long while. I think the biggest culprit is the explosion of hunters. Hardly anyone turkey hunted then and now I swear there's more turkey hunters than deer hunters. I'm not saying that's the sole reason but I'd wager it's the biggest as well as the tactics used. Southern States especially are going to have to drastically cut back. Whether opening the season later, shorter season or lowering bag limits or all of them. It is what it is. I blame TV hunting and social media for the explosion. I've never been a fan of the " we must recruit new hunters" as I thought it could backfire. I'm not even a fan of youth days even though I take youths. I could keep writing but I need to go to bed so I can find one of those nearly extinct birds in the morning [emoji3]. Cat I'm open if you wanna go lol

 

[NumberOne]

Catman you just keep doing you. you just keep doing what your doing and don't worry about all the haters.

THIS.

His posts are actually how I discovered the WMA.

"Hmm..Newbie turkey limiting out on public land?!?! Gotta go there!" Watched the pressure increase, but I got my birds each trip. Some just can't hang with the public land grind. I'm used to it. I've watched multiple spots rise and fall with hunting pressure over the years. Nothing new. Catman wisened up with his posts and media. We've watched him turn into a dang good turkey hunter/outdoorsman. He puts out GREAT videos. He helps introduce folks to the outdoors. We NEED more folks like him with the nationwide trend of declining hunter numbers. And before you start your "IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THEY AIN'T DECLINING" bullcrap, these are hunting license sales. NOT turkey hunting licenses sales. I fully agree that turkey hunters are definitely a subset that is not declining.

I am simply amazed at the negativity and behavior displayed towards him on this forum. Ya'll are grown men. ACT LIKE IT.

On a side note, catman had posted a pic of his pop-up blind one year. I found it a day or two later, recognized it immediately, and sent him the pic via PM. :lol:

Great post th88, except for the negativity comment. Telling the truth, and not sugar coating it, is far from negativity toward any one person, or curb stomping. Everyone read the post above closely. It proves the point many on here are trying to make to Cat and others who primarily hunt good public land. Hunt it, enjoy it, take your family and closest friends, but don't advertise it to the world if you want to keep enjoying what you discovered on your own. Many who portray themselves as your friend today, will be gone like the wind tomorrow as soon as your sought after public land resources dry up. Not all, but many.

Catman - keep killing it and producing great videos, but don't sell yourself short like so many on the web want you to do. My .02

I agree with the message. I'm not arguing that. I fish year around. It's more revelant in that arena then turkey hunting. I get it. The delivery could have been handled a little different. Pissing people off isn't gonna get the message across. Quite the opposite if you deal with a spiteful person.

 

[NumberOne]

op: since the clowns have shown up!!!

You gonna mess with some tires? you are the biggest clown in all of this. Trying to scare someone out of making a video

 

[Setterman]

As an only public land hunter, there's one person on earth that knows where I hunt. And that's the way it'll stay.

I'm not sure if we are attacking cat or supporting him. I like his videos a lot and I've got no clue where he hunts.

Now let's gets back to the real issue and that's plastic turkeys. Any one employing them is a faux turkey hunter and lacks the skill to actually hunt. op:

 

[Levee Jumper]

"Hmm..Newbie turkey limiting out on public land?!?! Gotta go there!" Watched the pressure increase, but I got my birds each trip. Some just can't hang with the public land grind. I'm used to it. I've watched multiple spots rise and fall with hunting pressure over the years. Nothing new. Catman wisened up with his posts and media. We've watched him turn into a dang good turkey hunter/outdoorsman. He puts out GREAT videos. He helps introduce folks to the outdoors. We NEED more folks like him with the nationwide trend of declining hunter numbers. And before you start your "IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THEY AIN'T DECLINING" bullcrap, these are hunting license sales. NOT turkey hunting licenses sales. I fully agree that turkey hunters are definitely a subset that is not declining.

I am simply amazed at the negativity and behavior displayed towards him on this forum. Ya'll are grown men. ACT LIKE IT.

On a side note, catman had posted a pic of his pop-up blind one year. I found it a day or two later, recognized it immediately, and sent him the pic via PM. :lol:[/quote]Great post th88, except for the negativity comment. Telling the truth, and not sugar coating it, is far from negativity toward any one person, or curb stomping. Everyone read the post above closely. It proves the point many on here are trying to make to Cat and others who primarily hunt good public land. Hunt it, enjoy it, take your family and closest friends, but don't advertise it to the world if you want to keep enjoying what you discovered on your own. Many who portray themselves as your friend today, will be gone like the wind tomorrow as soon as your sought after public land resources dry up. Not all, but many.

Catman - keep killing it and producing great videos, but don't sell yourself short like so many on the web want you to do. My .02[/quote]

I agree with the message. I'm not arguing that. I fish year around. It's more revelant in that arena then turkey hunting. I get it. The delivery could have been handled a little different. Pissing people off isn't gonna get the message across. Quite the opposite if you deal with a spiteful person.[/quote]

You don't wanna tell us where you catch all them fishes? Where to catch them prespawn, or what ledges they really get on post spawn? Lol

IMO it's certainly not more relevant in fishing. All them green fish get thrown back in the lake to "protect the resourse" those turkeys get a ride in the back of a pickup!

 

[NumberOne]

"Hmm..Newbie turkey limiting out on public land?!?! Gotta go there!" Watched the pressure increase, but I got my birds each trip. Some just can't hang with the public land grind. I'm used to it. I've watched multiple spots rise and fall with hunting pressure over the years. Nothing new. Catman wisened up with his posts and media. We've watched him turn into a dang good turkey hunter/outdoorsman. He puts out GREAT videos. He helps introduce folks to the outdoors. We NEED more folks like him with the nationwide trend of declining hunter numbers. And before you start your "IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THEY AIN'T DECLINING" bullcrap, these are hunting license sales. NOT turkey hunting licenses sales. I fully agree that turkey hunters are definitely a subset that is not declining.

I am simply amazed at the negativity and behavior displayed towards him on this forum. Ya'll are grown men. ACT LIKE IT.

On a side note, catman had posted a pic of his pop-up blind one year. I found it a day or two later, recognized it immediately, and sent him the pic via PM. :lol:

Great post th88, except for the negativity comment. Telling the truth, and not sugar coating it, is far from negativity toward any one person, or curb stomping. Everyone read the post above closely. It proves the point many on here are trying to make to Cat and others who primarily hunt good public land. Hunt it, enjoy it, take your family and closest friends, but don't advertise it to the world if you want to keep enjoying what you discovered on your own. Many who portray themselves as your friend today, will be gone like the wind tomorrow as soon as your sought after public land resources dry up. Not all, but many.

Catman - keep killing it and producing great videos, but don't sell yourself short like so many on the web want you to do. My .02[/quote]

I agree with the message. I'm not arguing that. I fish year around. It's more revelant in that arena then turkey hunting. I get it. The delivery could have been handled a little different. Pissing people off isn't gonna get the message across. Quite the opposite if you deal with a spiteful person.[/quote]

You don't wanna tell us where you catch all them fishes? Where to catch them prespawn, or what ledges they really get on post spawn? Lol

IMO it's certainly not more relevant in fishing. All them green fish get thrown back in the lake to "protect the resourse" those turkeys get a ride in the back of a pickup![/quote]

That's what I said isn't it? I agree with the message. But Im not dragging someone through the mud to get them to understand that message either. We aren't talking about some serious offense here.

 

[Levee Jumper]

I fish year around. It's more revelant in that arena then turkey hunting. I get it. [/quote]

IMO it's certainly not more relevant in fishing. All them green fish get thrown back in the lake to "protect the resourse" those turkeys get a ride in the back of a pickup![/quote]

That's what I said isn't it? [/quote]


First thought: Nope not what you said. :|

Second thought: I need to either drink more or drink less to interact with NUMBER ONE. You make my head hurt worse than a woods full of strutter carrying out of staters. :bash:

 

[tn24]

Let's get back to what this is all about! Let me give you some good news 16,958 is now what the harvest report reads ! That's some good numbers and I do believe well ahead of last year. I hope this continues although the weekend looks to be stormy and raining here.

I can"t figure out if the news is good or not. I checked the numbers just now. First I checked the Turkey Harvest Report by County/WMA and it shows the county harvest at 7936. Then I checked the county harvest including WMA and it showed 17062. Then I checked just the WMA harvest and it showed 570. Next I checked the Harvest Biological Data Report statewide and it showed 7877. Does anybody know which one is correct or if any are correct?

 

[Setterman]

Let's get back to what this is all about! Let me give you some good news 16,958 is now what the harvest report reads ! That's some good numbers and I do believe well ahead of last year. I hope this continues although the weekend looks to be stormy and raining here.

I can"t figure out if the news is good or not. I checked the numbers just now. First I checked the Turkey Harvest Report by County/WMA and it shows the county harvest at 7936. Then I checked the county harvest including WMA and it showed 17062. Then I checked just the WMA harvest and it showed 570. Next I checked the Harvest Biological Data Report statewide and it showed 7877. Does anybody know which one is correct or if any are correct?

My personal opinion is it's really bad and the high number being reported is not accurate.

But it may be that high or it may be that low. Whatever is going on leaves it totsally to twra folks to tell us what they want. And they've proven they don't have the population in their best interest

 

[Levee Jumper]

As an only public land hunter, there's one person on earth that knows where I hunt. And that's the way it'll stay.

I'm not sure if we are attacking cat or supporting him. I like his videos a lot and I've got no clue where he hunts.

Now let's gets back to the real issue and that's plastic turkeys. Any one employing them is a faux turkey hunter and lacks the skill to actually hunt. op:

Just to keep this going.... to hell with hunting out of a kids playhouse and hunting over plastic turkeys. My wife snickers at that yugo on TV.

 

[tn24]

Let's get back to what this is all about! Let me give you some good news 16,958 is now what the harvest report reads ! That's some good numbers and I do believe well ahead of last year. I hope this continues although the weekend looks to be stormy and raining here.

I can"t figure out if the news is good or not. I checked the numbers just now. First I checked the Turkey Harvest Report by County/WMA and it shows the county harvest at 7936. Then I checked the county harvest including WMA and it showed 17062. Then I checked just the WMA harvest and it showed 570. Next I checked the Harvest Biological Data Report statewide and it showed 7877. Does anybody know which one is correct or if any are correct?

My personal opinion is it's really bad and the high number being reported is not accurate.

But it may be that high or it may be that low. Whatever is going on leaves it totsally to twra folks to tell us what they want. And they've proven they don't have the population in their best interest

The part that really confuses me is if the WMA harvest is 570 how does adding the WMA harvest to the county harvest raise the number over 9000.

 

[catman529]

wow what the hell happened to this thread lol.

same thing I was thinking. I started this thread to bring something positive to a rather negative attitude regarding the harvest numbers. All it did was fuel the negativity and make things worse. As much as I hate to say it, and I should have realized this a while ago, but Tndeer is not what it used to be. There's a handful of salty old dudes who only want to see the bad in everything and complain about everything and everyone. Throw in the whole conspiracy theory vibe and it's almost laughable. These people and the general attitude I've seen lately has been running the good people off this forum one at a time. I know a bunch of guys who don't post here anymore, a bunch who post a lot less than before, and we all remember BSK and how he got run off a few years ago. It took me a while, but for once I'm realizing why, and I hate to see it happen.


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[elknturkey]

wow what the hell happened to this thread lol.

same thing I was thinking. I started this thread to bring something positive to a rather negative attitude regarding the harvest numbers. All it did was fuel the negativity and make things worse. As much as I hate to say it, and I should have realized this a while ago, but Tndeer is not what it used to be. There's a handful of salty old dudes who only want to see the bad in everything and complain about everything and everyone. Throw in the whole conspiracy theory vibe and it's almost laughable. These people and the general attitude I've seen lately has been running the good people off this forum one at a time. I know a bunch of guys who don't post here anymore, a bunch who post a lot less than before, and we all remember BSK and how he got run off a few years ago. It took me a while, but for once I'm realizing why, and I hate to see it happen.


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Hang around cat. This just happens to be one of those threads that can get tempers elevated. I'm not even a resident but this is one of the very few forums I visit regularly

 

[Andy S.]

Hang around cat.

For sure Catman, you have grown up here, and some members on here have staked claim to saving your life when you first started hunting. I remember the early years when you posted some antiquated contraptions of deer stands that you were about to climb into, and several us offered you our deer stands, as well as safety vests, as well as other hunting equipment (scn, Bowriter, other members, etc). You'll get a lot of advice and wisdom in life from others, some delivered very nice and soft, and some not so much. In the end, I suspect there will be something to learn from all of it, regardless of the source, or the delivery. That's been my experience in life. Stick around, keep hunting harder than ever, and keep producing great videos. I am betting with time you will see the good in everyone's advice, whether you, or others, liked the delivery or not. You have to have thick enough skin to not let a few salty "old guys" run you off. :tu:

 

[Andy S.]

Let's get back to what this is all about! Let me give you some good news 16,958 is now what the harvest report reads ! That's some good numbers and I do believe well ahead of last year. I hope this continues although the weekend looks to be stormy and raining here.

I can"t figure out if the news is good or not. I checked the numbers just now. First I checked the Turkey Harvest Report by County/WMA and it shows the county harvest at 7936. Then I checked the county harvest including WMA and it showed 17062. Then I checked just the WMA harvest and it showed 570. Next I checked the Harvest Biological Data Report statewide and it showed 7877. Does anybody know which one is correct or if any are correct?

Same here tn24. I have run the reports on 4 different computers, with 3 different browsers, and get different numbers each time. I cannot even reproduce the numbers I got on the previous computer/browser, much less have any confidence in what the report says.

 

[poorhunter]

wow what the hell happened to this thread lol.

same thing I was thinking. I started this thread to bring something positive to a rather negative attitude regarding the harvest numbers. All it did was fuel the negativity and make things worse. As much as I hate to say it, and I should have realized this a while ago, but Tndeer is not what it used to be. There's a handful of salty old dudes who only want to see the bad in everything and complain about everything and everyone. Throw in the whole conspiracy theory vibe and it's almost laughable. These people and the general attitude I've seen lately has been running the good people off this forum one at a time. I know a bunch of guys who don't post here anymore, a bunch who post a lot less than before, and we all remember BSK and how he got run off a few years ago. It took me a while, but for once I'm realizing why, and I hate to see it happen.


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I try to make it a habit that when someone offers correction to just take it. Even if they're not right. I have said things on this board that I am very confident in that someone or other totally disagrees with and they said so. So what? The idea should be self examination to see if maybe they're right. Folks really need to be able to take correction the right way. When I correct my own children, they oftentimes think they're right and I'm wrong, can you believe it?!? I'm also man enough to realize I am wrong sometimes. I'm also man enough to listen to others even on topics I know a lot about.

Being teachable is an axiom, and part of that is taking other people's advice and considering it, not being offended by it. I just cannot believe I'm reading some of these comments on this (and other threads) about how "butt hurt" someone is just because they gave their advice and opinion. Huh? Then they continue to make it plain by their own comments that they are the ones who are "butt hurt" because someone gave advice. :roll: Just take it.