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Setterman

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2017- 29,385 to this point
2018- 18,300 to this point.

Yikes. Many will blame weather but the weather is an issue every season. Not a good look for our esteemed "biologists"
 
Wow. Yeah they'll just blame it in the weather and continue business as normal. Nothing to see here, move along and buy those licenses.


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I saw this one coming last year statewide, and on localized areas a decade ago. If we don't get an incredible hatch this year, the state will be lucky to kill 20,000 next spring.

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Setterman":zonyevq1 said:
SEC":zonyevq1 said:
My best farms have been under water 3 different times since our seasons opened. Nobody to blame for that.
Keep that head in the sand....
No hatch in 2016
Very small hatch in 2017
Looks like 2018 hatch will be a flop

I'm speaking only for my neck of the woods. It's bad here and only gonna get worse. Mother nature is simply not allowing them to reproduce. I do think our limit is to high and our season is way to long. The TWRA looks at the turkeys the same way they look at the deer. Kill em all and let God sort em out.
 
SEC":2r21v50r said:
Setterman":2r21v50r said:
SEC":2r21v50r said:
My best farms have been under water 3 different times since our seasons opened. Nobody to blame for that.
Keep that head in the sand....
No hatch in 2016
Very small hatch in 2017
Looks like 2018 hatch will be a flop

I'm speaking only for my neck of the woods. It's bad here and only gonna get worse. Mother nature is simply not allowing them to reproduce. I do think our limit is to high and our season is way to long. The TWRA looks at the turkeys the same way they look at the deer. Kill em all and let God sort em out.
That's fair and I agree with your premise on this one after a further explanation
 
Setterman,

I see your point, and I am tracking the overall premise as well, but these are the latest numbers I get through yesterday (day 26 of statewide, but including all earlier hunts (Chuck Swan), statewide juvenile, and all WMAs):

2017- 29,162 to this point (84% of checked in turkeys last year during spring season)
2018- 21,852 to this point

That is a 28% difference from one year to the next, and not in the direction us hunters want to see it go.

If you take the 21,852 as of yesterday, and divide it by 84%, which is 0.84, you will see that we are tracking a final number of approximately 25,963 birds checked in. That number may increase somewhat, but I seriously doubt it will get anywhere near 30,000.

If we do not break the 30,000 mark for the spring season, it will be the first time since 2001 when we checked in 28,041. To put that in perspective, back then, statewide poults per hen ratios were consistently "4" from 1998-2002, and populations were exploding across much of the state. The 28,041 check in number for 2001 was a 6,000 bird increase from 2000 season when we checked in 22,145.

For A LOT of the state, especially middle Tennessee, those were the days turkey hunters dream of. You could literally mess up a turkey or two in the morning, and still have another option, or two, on a lot of farms, and on some public ground. That may not be realistic to expect, or sustain over time, but it is the days us turkey hunters dream of.
 
This decline has not happened overnight but the wildlife comm. failed to act


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I do wonder what TWRA will do/say if the harvest ends up at 26000. There's a lot of you guys in here that testify that you have as many or more turkeys than ever, a lot have seen less, and a lot have seen practically nothing like me. One thing I have noticed since moving to Tennessee and living where turkeys live, is that I've yet to see more than one in 10 hens with poults in the summer. I live where I can watch turkeys pretty much year round, and I'll see several hens in a flock in April and the same flock in July with only one having any poults, or maybe two with a total of 8 poults. But I'd always still see lots and lots of hens and have lots of gobblers to chose from each spring...till this year.
 
:roll: you know it really hurts, but a part of me wants to laugh, because alot of people whining in these threads posted, even up to last year, that "what's going on in southern middle tn shouldnt effect my turkey season" well you guys were warned, now it has an effect. I dont know what the answer is, but I do know I have had to drive an hour any direction for the last 12 years to find huntable populations of birds. I'll also add that changing the limit will not help.
 
SEC":3e1q3z2i said:
Setterman":3e1q3z2i said:
SEC":3e1q3z2i said:
My best farms have been under water 3 different times since our seasons opened. Nobody to blame for that.
Keep that head in the sand....
No hatch in 2016
Very small hatch in 2017
Looks like 2018 hatch will be a flop

I'm speaking only for my neck of the woods. It's bad here and only gonna get worse. Mother nature is simply not allowing them to reproduce. I do think our limit is to high and our season is way to long. The TWRA looks at the turkeys the same way they look at the deer. Kill em all and let God sort em out.

Why you say 2018 will be a flop?


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Rockhound":q8pnjlt7 said:
:roll: you know it really hurts, but a part of me wants to laugh, because alot of people whining in these threads posted, even up to last year, that "what's going on in southern middle tn shouldnt effect my turkey season" well you guys were warned, now it has an effect. I dont know what the answer is, but I do know I have had to drive an hour any direction for the last 12 years to find huntable populations of birds. I'll also add that changing the limit will not help.

I agree changing the limit will not help but it might make hunting a little better in the short term...

I know if one of my neighbors killed 4, it's over...

Look at quail there is still a season from November to February with a 6 bird limit but obviously hunting is not the problem...


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