Hornady Bore Driver bullets

[BSK]

Just shoot round balls.

Right....

The worst aerodynamics on the planet.

 

[BSK]

I killed quite a few with patched round balls back in the early 90s.

I saw a lot of deer lost to round balls. Terrible penetration and even worse accuracy. Plus, you need a slow-twist barrel.

 

[BSK]

The difference is the thickness of a human fingernail, do you seriously believe you can see a difference in performance?

I've used .44's, .45's and full bore 50's, you can't see a difference.

I absolutely will not shoot a light 45-caliber pistol bullet out of a 50-caliber rifle.

 

[Remi]

I absolutely will not shoot a light 45-caliber pistol bullet out of a 50-caliber rifle.

Cool, but you still will never see a difference in performance.


300grs ain't light


You're looking at a 290gr .50 cal but won't shoot a 300gr .45 because it's too light? lol


You can get 400gr bullets as well. So a 400gr .45 vs a 400gr .50

 

[Jcalder]

Right....

The worst aerodynamics on the planet.

You're been given multiple options that just plain work but you're too stuck on a full bore option. There's entirely too much difference between manufacturers on muzzleloader barrels. TC used to run bigger than a cva. There isn't really a standard unlike rifle barrels, or even custom barrels. There's a reason sabots are popular. You can get them to fit a tight barrel or even a loose barrel. Pistol bullets work because they were designed to work closer to that velocity range. I have no idea why powerbelts are junk, but it pretty common to see them shoot very well but they don't perform well on an animal. Most everyone raves on Barnes, and I just wasn't impressed with them.

 

[PickettSFHunter]

Lehigh defense controlled fracture and be done with it. Yes they take the scary sabots though

 

[jlanecr500]

Barnes Expander 300gr.

 

[ThorThor]

I absolutely will not shoot a light 45-caliber pistol bullet out of a 50-caliber rifle.

Light ? Who said light. I shoot Barnes TMZ 290 grain or the 300 grain Barnes expander if shooting under 100. Get some .458 sabots and a box of 400 grain Barnes originals if you want really heavy. The 240 grain .44 pistol bullet thing died 20 years ago ( my opinion )

 

[Remi]

Light ? Who said light. I shoot Barnes TMZ 290 grain or the 300 grain Barnes expander if shooting under 100. Get some .458 sabots and a box of 400 grain Barnes originals if you want really heavy. The 240 grain .44 pistol bullet thing died 20 years ago ( my opinion )

Barnes Originals are monsters. I've used the 300's from my muzzleloader in the past. I'm not sure what it would take to stop one but I'd bet money no animal in Tennessee would. I can't imagine what a 400 would be like penetration wise.


My Encore works perfect with a .452" Black Harvester Crush rib and .458" bullets. I know they make .458 specific but the regular ones work in mine.

 

[ThorThor]

Nothing in TN will stop a .458 400 grain Barnes Original at any angle with 3 777 Pellets or stiff load of BH 209 only a quartering shot on an elk will stop one.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Don't you shoot a TC Omega? If so, I do as well with the max load of BH209 powder. I use the
Parker Productions Jacketed Ballistic Extreme 250gr. Extremely accurate. Haven't shot a deer with it yet though - I switched to this combo last offseason

 

[Jcalder]

Don't you shoot a TC Omega? If so, I do as well with the max load of BH209 powder. I use the
Parker Productions Jacketed Ballistic Extreme 250gr. Extremely accurate. Haven't shot a deer with it yet though - I switched to this combo last offseason

That's a great bullet as well

 

[vonb]

I will NEVER EVER use sabots! You have a 50-caliber gun. Why shoot a 45-caliber bullet?

What's not to like about sabots? Less lead fouling, better BC and you can mix and match for your bore size. Unless I'm reliving old ways, I can't see me using buffalo bullets or round balls.

 

[Redfox]

I should probably sit this one out, but….
This test was prepping for a Colorado mule deer hunt.

I shot the regular bore drivers through 3 different CVA platforms (4 guns) and a TC. All of them grouped extremely well. Most liked 90-100 grains of BH the best. They also load easy even after several shots.

I took the round out local and killed a few deer just to see the actual performance on meat. I killed a a buck and a doe at roughly 90 & 125 yards. Both hits were pretty well textbook lung hits with pass through. No complaints, test passed.

I settled for a max charge of powder for my Colorado rig. I figured with my sight limitations I would take the increased velocity. I hit my Colorado buck center shoulder at 100-110 yards and dropped him, but the aftermath looked like he was hit with a grenade. The bullet was in hundreds of slivers and only a small section of the base made the offside hide.

I say they preformed acceptable at slightly lower velocity on a little less bone. They far exceeded power belt and borelok. I would stick with Thor or furry if I was a serious no sabots fan.