Outlaw decoys

[Setterman]

Still all this talk of helping out the population and the ways to do so, but no mention of outlawing the biggest killer of birds. Get rid of the decoys,period.

How any conversation can be had without this makes the rest moot.

 

[ruger7mag]

Someone may have posted that on Facebook a few days ago...

 

[knightrider]

Here we go again :roll:

 

[Goodtimekiller]

I shot 48 turkeys over decoys this year. The decoys did not harm one of the turkeys and i have never seen a decoy hurt a turkey. It is not fair to blame the decoys.


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[Roost 1]

I shot 48 turkeys over decoys this year. The decoys did not harm one of the turkeys and i have never seen a decoy hurt a turkey. It is not fair to blame the decoys.


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Every time it seems you get on the right track, you backslide to old ways.
I know you are kidding about the number but I also hope you are kidding about the rest of it as well.
If not, then how many do you think you would of killed without the decoys?
Decoys,especially strutters, lead to the demise of field birds that normally would not get killed at all.

Take away decoys and you would not see near as many guys posting pics of 1.5" spurs.

 

[TreyB]

op:

 

[AT Hiker]

It's like dropping the mic on a dead horse. Ain't nobody gonna listen, especially the deaf horse.


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[String Music]

Dang. I was hoping you had started a new decoy line called "Outlaw Decoys." Call me disappointed...


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[AT Hiker]

That's a brilliant idea.
For years I've always said you could sit a pink flamingo out in a field and a horny Tom would come running to it.
I think I will call it "the outlaw deke"


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[muddyboots]

Man I think you might as well give that up. Ain't gonna happen. 1. Too much money in it. 2. It does encourage more hunters. Decoys are here to stay whether unlike them or not.

 

[Goodtimekiller]

I shot 48 turkeys over decoys this year. The decoys did not harm one of the turkeys and i have never seen a decoy hurt a turkey. It is not fair to blame the decoys.


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Every time it seems you get on the right track, you backslide to old ways.
I know you are kidding about the number but I also hope you are kidding about the rest of it as well.
If not, then how many do you think you would of killed without the decoys?
Decoys,especially strutters, lead to the demise of field birds that normally would not get killed at all.

Take away decoys and you would not see near as many guys posting pics of 1.5" spurs.

As comical as the statement is, to me, i couldn't post anything serious. In my personal experience and the people i talk to, i have seen and heard of way more turkeys running away from decoys than running into them. That's the honest truth. It seems the people who want them outlawed are the people who do not hunt with them that do not know this fact. To me, the people that do not hunt with them are making assumptions that they are extremely effective killing machines because of the videos they see and the stories they hear. But, the truth is no one posts videos or tell the stories of all the turkeys that run from them, that's not really all that exciting. Sure, many turkeys are killed every year with decoys that might not have been killed otherwise, but we could say the same about many things but where do we draw the line? Do we make the first half of turkey season a bow only season, i bet that would help the population more. Do we outlaw calls? I bet close to 100% of turkeys killed over decoys were drawn to the decoys by calls. And what about all the turkeys that are killed with calls and no decoys? What about locator calls? They help us find the the turkeys. I know many will think this is crazy, and it is, but remember we live in a country of 90% nonhunters, people get crazy. I have talked to people who have dug holes in a field during the middle of the night to lay in it to shoot a turkey the next day. Do we outlaw hole digging?

In my opinion, there are many things that i've seen that cause more deaths to turkeys that should be addressed way before decoys. To say that if we are not addressing decoys we are doing nothing seems pretty off base to me.


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[prstide]

*unless they have a tail fan

 

[Goodtimekiller]

*unless they have a tail fan

Ive seen many toms tuck tail and run from a strutting decoy this year, a group of 5 at one time.


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[Setterman]

I shot 48 turkeys over decoys this year. The decoys did not harm one of the turkeys and i have never seen a decoy hurt a turkey. It is not fair to blame the decoys.


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Every time it seems you get on the right track, you backslide to old ways.
I know you are kidding about the number but I also hope you are kidding about the rest of it as well.
If not, then how many do you think you would of killed without the decoys?
Decoys,especially strutters, lead to the demise of field birds that normally would not get killed at all.

Take away decoys and you would not see near as many guys posting pics of 1.5" spurs.

As comical as the statement is, to me, i couldn't post anything serious. In my personal experience and the people i talk to, i have seen and heard of way more turkeys running away from decoys than running into them. That's the honest truth. It seems the people who want them outlawed are the people who do not hunt with them that do not know this fact. To me, the people that do not hunt with them are making assumptions that they are extremely effective killing machines because of the videos they see and the stories they hear. But, the truth is no one posts videos or tell the stories of all the turkeys that run from them, that's not really all that exciting. Sure, many turkeys are killed every year with decoys that might not have been killed otherwise, but we could say the same about many things but where do we draw the line? Do we make the first half of turkey season a bow only season, i bet that would help the population more. Do we outlaw calls? I bet close to 100% of turkeys killed over decoys were drawn to the decoys by calls. And what about all the turkeys that are killed with calls and no decoys? What about locator calls? They help us find the the turkeys. I know many will think this is crazy, and it is, but remember we live in a country of 90% nonhunters, people get crazy. I have talked to people who have dug holes in a field during the middle of the night to lay in it to shoot a turkey the next day. Do we outlaw hole digging?

In my opinion, there are many things that i've seen that cause more deaths to turkeys that should be addressed way before decoys. To say that if we are not addressing decoys we are doing nothing seems pretty off base to me.


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I love these statements. Evidence ain't on your side junior. There are thousands and thousands upon thousands of videos showing the exact opposite. Hell go find the topic I posted a few years ago when I got invited on a blind decoy outing. It's a joke, I've never seen anything that effective

 

[Southern Sportsman]

That's a brilliant idea.
For years I've always said you could sit a pink flamingo out in a field and a horny Tom would come running to it.
I think I will call it "the outlaw deke"

A guy from Alabama already beat you to the proprietary punch. Enjoy:

http://gobblernation.com/phpBB3/viewtop ... it=badonka

 

[Roost 1]

In my opinion, there are many things that i've seen that cause more deaths to turkeys that should be addressed way before decoys. To say that if we are not addressing decoys we are doing nothing seems pretty off base to me.



Please tell us!!! Bait is the only thing I can think of.......

 

[spoon]

Me being deaf in one ear and can't tell the direction of sound, I need them to help me out. Now with that being said, I hunted several times this year without them only to have a bird come in twice behind me and several times I couldn't tell where he was, but I knew he was very close. If and when I'm able to hunt with a friend no decoys are used, but that's not too often.

 

[Southern Sportsman]

Do we outlaw calls? I bet close to 100% of turkeys killed over decoys were drawn to the decoys by calls.

I know you are just trying to make your point and justify a method of hunting, but this sentence is so silly that I just can't take anything you said serious.

 

[Goodtimekiller]

Do we outlaw calls? I bet close to 100% of turkeys killed over decoys were drawn to the decoys by calls.

I know you are just trying to make your point and justify a method of hunting, but this sentence is so silly that I just can't take anything you said serious.

But tell me where we stop, when we outlaw decoys and have a 34k harvest then do we outlaw calls or what? I am not trying to justify a method of hunting, even though i think decoys help a lot of hunters and why would another hunter fault them for that. Decoys have been used for a very long time. But i am trying to try to get people to see that we can stop the use of decoys because of one guy's opinion, but for another guy why shouldn't we stop using shotguns, or calls, or camo? Where is the line drawn and who gets to draw the line?


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[Goodtimekiller]

In my opinion, there are many things that i've seen that cause more deaths to turkeys that should be addressed way before decoys. To say that if we are not addressing decoys we are doing nothing seems pretty off base to me.



Please tell us!!! Bait is the only thing I can think of.......

Bait
Opossum
Skunks
Coyotes
Armadillo
Poachers
Hawks
Lack of nesting
Infectious diseases
Toxic diseases
Raccoons
Hay cutting



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