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Outlaw decoys

knightrider":3i2qyw19 said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!

Yes, that's true. I used that wording to express the difficulty in killing field birds that virtually every turkey hunter I've ever talked to describes them. Field birds (like both of us said) usually take days to kill, not minutes with decoys. Maybe "unkilled" would be a better word since most of them used to end up that way. I've read thread afterthread, comment after comment about how difficult field birds are. Articles in magazines, books, blogs, videos etc etc talk about "how to kill a field bird", I've been reading them since I started turkey hunting in the early 90's. Even the old timers back them all said the same thing, they all point to how difficult it is, or was until the advent of decoys. Which is why they are so popular.
 
knightrider":2tl85ttg said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!
Surely your not trying to imply that you have killed "every" Gobbler you have ever went after and if so, that is the funniest thing "I" have ever heard :rotf: Unfortunately, decoys and those that need them, are here to stay. Don't bother me much. I enjoy offending them, as well as other non traditional turkey hunters, whenever possible. Like I've said before, if he was not called down your gun barrel to within 40 yards, from the base of a tree, I don't want to hear about it, I don't care who you are. ;)
 
Southern Sportsman":32eh1be0 said:
AT Hiker":32eh1be0 said:
That's a brilliant idea.
For years I've always said you could sit a pink flamingo out in a field and a horny Tom would come running to it.
I think I will call it "the outlaw deke"

A guy from Alabama already beat you to the proprietary punch. Enjoy:

http://gobblernation.com/phpBB3/viewtop ... it=badonka


Heck other than the goofy head, the milk jug body, cardboard wings and real tail fan really doesn't look that bad but then again I remember making plywood silhouettes in shop class in the late 80's and having a friend in art class paint it for me. If I'd seen something like that back then we'd been all over it. lol
 
AT Hiker":26a146kc said:
That's a brilliant idea.
For years I've always said you could sit a pink flamingo out in a field and a horny Tom would come running to it.
I think I will call it "the outlaw deke"


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I've seen them in the city go after red cars and little kids. No doubt a pink flamingos

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knightrider":kmcak21w said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!
They're unkillable to the tent hunters and those who need the crutch of a plastic turkey. There's no way the vast majority of those type of hunters kill 1% of the field birds they do without the plastic turkey.

And maybe you're better than any one else who's ever turkey hunted and kill 100% of the birds you mess with. I certainly don't and find several birds a year that are dang near unkillable with a traditional approach. Maybe I should've said incredibly challenging or virtually unkillable.
 
Setterman":1tdjh4lt said:
knightrider":1tdjh4lt said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!
They're unkillable to the tent hunters and those who need the crutch of a plastic turkey. There's no way the vast majority of those type of hunters kill 1% of the field birds they do without the plastic turkey.

And maybe you're better than any one else who's ever turkey hunted and kill 100% of the birds you mess with. I certainly don't and find several birds a year that are dang near unkillable with a traditional approach. Maybe I should've said incredibly challenging or virtually unkillable.
I thought u hunted the mountains? Are there that many big fields up in the mountains? Tell ya what, leave those calls at home and just take the dekes to the mountains next time and see what luck you have.


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Nope not killed em all but there is very few that live to see the next season because they are turkeys. I've chased field birds a week straight and just need ten more yards and it not work then the 12 year old next door come sit down under a tree squalk on a mouth call and blow his head off. Turkeys are just turkeys none of them are unkillable is what I was saying
 
knightrider":g105khap said:
Nope not killed em all but there is very few that live to see the next season because they are turkeys. I've chased field birds a week straight and just need ten more yards and it not work then the 12 year old next door come sit down under a tree squalk on a mouth call and blow his head off. Turkeys are just turkeys none of them are unkillable is what I was saying
I agree, seems the most uncallable, unresponsive, uncaring tom will be just the opposite one day later or even just hours later. But if you spend some time and don't leave at 9:30 am because "he's henned up", or "he's an unkillable field bird" it's amazing what you can see happen around 12-2pm when most guys are back at home. I wish you hadn't said that about the 12 year old, Setterman doesn't like it when the young guys are successful. [emoji23]


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Goodtimekiller":hj5tj88i said:
Setterman":hj5tj88i said:
knightrider":hj5tj88i said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!
They're unkillable to the tent hunters and those who need the crutch of a plastic turkey. There's no way the vast majority of those type of hunters kill 1% of the field birds they do without the plastic turkey.

And maybe you're better than any one else who's ever turkey hunted and kill 100% of the birds you mess with. I certainly don't and find several birds a year that are dang near unkillable with a traditional approach. Maybe I should've said incredibly challenging or virtually unkillable.
I thought u hunted the mountains? Are there that many big fields up in the mountains? Tell ya what, leave those calls at home and just take the dekes to the mountains next time and see what luck you have.


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You ought to get out more. Our mountains are covered with reclaimed strip mines that are nothing more than giant clover fields. And yes as I said earlier in this thread I've witnessed the kamikaze decoy hunts in those places. It was a pitiful joke
 
Setterman":3eddfhow said:
Goodtimekiller":3eddfhow said:
Setterman":3eddfhow said:
knightrider said:
Unkillable turkey :rotf: :rotf: that's the funniest thing of all these threads, because they ain't one! Difficult maybe, unkillable not a chance. I'm not talking sticking decoys in the ground either I'm talking scouting,terrain, and the long lost art of patience! It may take a day or two but he is killable!!
They're unkillable to the tent hunters and those who need the crutch of a plastic turkey. There's no way the vast majority of those type of hunters kill 1% of the field birds they do without the plastic turkey.

And maybe you're better than any one else who's ever turkey hunted and kill 100% of the birds you mess with. I certainly don't and find several birds a year that are dang near unkillable with a traditional approach. Maybe I should've said incredibly challenging or virtually unkillable.
I thought u hunted the mountains? Are there that many big fields up in the mountains? Tell ya what, leave those calls at home and just take the dekes to the mountains next time and see what luck you have.


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You ought to get out more. Our mountains are covered with reclaimed strip mines that are nothing more than giant clover fields. And yes as I said earlier in this thread I've witnessed the kamikaze decoy hunts in those places. It was a pitiful joke
It was a genuine question, sorry i don't travel to hunt across the state, mainly because i've never got an invite[emoji6][emoji6]. Honestly the only thing i know about where you hunt is that it is in the mountains, the only mountains ive been to in tn had no fields, but my time there has been limited. I prefer the mountains to our west.

I have come to a realization from all of these discussions that 1 of 2 things must be true, either i am right or i am maybe the worst decoyer ever. Maybe i just need one of you old guys to show me how to hunt the right way so i can truly enjoy it.


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knightrider":8mw5bcdq said:
Nope not killed em all but there is very few that live to see the next season because they are turkeys. I've chased field birds a week straight and just need ten more yards and it not work then the 12 year old next door come sit down under a tree squalk on a mouth call and blow his head off. Turkeys are just turkeys none of them are unkillable is what I was saying
Except the "few" that lived to see next season, despite you and your 12 year old neighbors best efforts ;) I will add you to my internet list of those who not to pay attention too regarding turkey hunting :)
 
cowhunter71":2iqlg339 said:
knightrider":2iqlg339 said:
Nope not killed em all but there is very few that live to see the next season because they are turkeys. I've chased field birds a week straight and just need ten more yards and it not work then the 12 year old next door come sit down under a tree squalk on a mouth call and blow his head off. Turkeys are just turkeys none of them are unkillable is what I was saying
Except the "few" that lived to see next season, despite you and your 12 year old neighbors best efforts ;) I will add you to my internet list of those who not to pay attention too regarding turkey hunting :)
and I'll add you to the list of those who think a turkey is a magical animal that has some kind of human reasoning going on in their walnut size brain :rotf:
They are just turkeys being turkeys and turkeys are very killable sorry
 
Once again, except for the "very few" you speak of, that you were not able to kill. Most would be amazed at the number of Gobblers that survive each season, especially on the most heavily pounded ground. Pretty impressive for having a walnut size brain, at least to me ;)
 
cowhunter71":1s6ve69e said:
Once again, except for the "very few" you speak of, that you were not able to kill. Most would be amazed at the number of Gobblers that survive each season, especially on the most heavily pounded ground. Pretty impressive for having a walnut size brain, at least to me ;)
I think this is what can make them so hard or easy to kill. If you don't know what you're gonna do next, how can anybody else, but then sometimes they'll just run in to some horrible calling or walk right over you.


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Would some of you veteran turkey hunters consider killing a bird over a decoy to be the equivalent of killing a big buck in a food plot? Or on a low-pressure farm? It seems there are different degrees and level of difficulties of hunting across the state and from property to property. The man who kills a 120" mountain deer gets no where near the credit of the man who kills the 150" in a food plot. Who do you think hunted harder?
 
7X57":2rpqcj8h said:
Would some of you veteran turkey hunters consider killing a bird over a decoy to be the equivalent of killing a big buck in a food plot? Or on a low-pressure farm? It seems there are different degrees and level of difficulties of hunting across the state and from property to property. The man who kills a 120" mountain deer gets no where near the credit of the man who kills the 150" in a food plot. Who do you think hunted harder?

I think mountain deer are harder, not sure about score equivalency though. But i would never fault a guy for hunting a food plot if thats where he had to hunt.


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7X57":ib4r24i0 said:
Would some of you veteran turkey hunters consider killing a bird over a decoy to be the equivalent of killing a big buck in a food plot? Or on a low-pressure farm? It seems there are different degrees and level of difficulties of hunting across the state and from property to property. The man who kills a 120" mountain deer gets no where near the credit of the man who kills the 150" in a food plot. Who do you think hunted harder?
You can't compare deer to turkeys. Except the onslaught of tent hunters are deer hunters that do turkeys as a hobby,

I can add that there's more really big deer in these mountains than in most places, and they're not that hard to kill. Deer hunting is primarily an ambush sport, and most wont admit it, but it's largely luck.ive killed a pile of giant deer and feel luck played a role in most of them
 
Setterman":240zy5a1 said:
7X57":240zy5a1 said:
Would some of you veteran turkey hunters consider killing a bird over a decoy to be the equivalent of killing a big buck in a food plot? Or on a low-pressure farm? It seems there are different degrees and level of difficulties of hunting across the state and from property to property. The man who kills a 120" mountain deer gets no where near the credit of the man who kills the 150" in a food plot. Who do you think hunted harder?
You can't compare deer to turkeys. Except the onslaught of tent hunters are deer hunters that do turkeys as a hobby,

I can add that there's more really big deer in these mountains than in most places, and they're not that hard to kill. Deer hunting is primarily an ambush sport, and most wont admit it, but it's largely luck.ive killed a pile of giant deer and feel luck played a role in most of them

To kill big deer, you've definitely got to have luck. You can scout and plan the wind and weather and everything perfectly, and if he don't want to walk by you that day he doesn't have to. I think it takes always some luck though.

Wild turkey though, with a gun and call, takes skill more so than luck, although it takes luck too.

Now that I think about it, I think turkey hunting requires the same amount of luck, because, if he don't want to gobble and "play the game" he doesn't have to.


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