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Seek One’s dilemma

kaizen leader said:
One thing I know for sure is there are way too many urban/city deer. Harvest as many as you can. They have no predators and eat everyone's flowers and get hit by cars. If it turns out to be a trophy buck so be it, eat it.
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I agree. If you hunt urban/suburban deer, you should shoot everyone that comes by in the order they come by. I know you only get so many buck tags, so if you just want to shoot does and BBs, do that. If you get lucky and a 150"+ comes by shoot it. Do what you want with it, but do not expect hunters to pat you on the back and tell you, "you're a great hunter", because the kill will be more a product of where you hunted vs. you knowing how to hunt.

For the record, I see nothing wrong with shooting urban/suburban deer (It's just not for me personally). If a person does so and posts a picture of a big buck, just be honest and admit that you shot it in a backyard and know it wasn't as hard as getting one in a more natural environment, but you wanted to show the buck. Some will hate no matter what you say, but overall I think most will just say nice buck and some will even commend you for realizing and admitting it is not the same.
 
Gobble4me757 said:
They didn't like my comment where I said well they've killed em from peoples driveways literally so what's stopping them from killing that one…

People need to stop giving them permission and instead charge them to hunt because they are making money off it all
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I think they are paying too. I bet they say otherwise, but I doubt these people are just handing them permission. In some cases I could see them showing there you tube channel and followers, and acting like they are famous, but if these people don't hunt, what does that mean to them? He's making money, so I would bet he is offering money to hunt and the people don't like the deer, get money, and a famous person hunts there.... to a suburbanite this is a win, win, win...
 
MusicCityCajun said:
Curious what everyone here think about the question Seek one posed in his recent video. I know he got a lot of hate here after his giant Nashville buck for killing a "neighborhood pet" deer. I don't personally have a problem with his methods. Curious what y'all think.

For those that haven't seen it: in one of his most recent videos he says he has a potentially world record deer on camera that he's tracked for a few years.
The deer spends 99% of his life in an urban area where hunting is prohibited and people have pics of the deer all over their yards. During the rut, for a day or two, the deer ventures just outside of the protected area into an area he has permission to hunt. He asks, for public image of hunting reasons, would be a good idea to go after the deer or would a kill bring a detrimental spotlight to the hunting community like a cecil the lion type scenario.
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If the deer is on legal hunting property, getting him in range in a 1-2 day window is a big accomplishment.

In particular, a world record class deer - hard not to go after.

Me personally, I don't love killing for clicks. But if it's legal and fair chase, then who I am to point fingers.
 
SinningSaint33 said:
They have several videos where they absolutely stack does in the same neighborhoods.
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and golf courses. I am good with that. I get it if a 190" walks by they want to shoot it, but you cannot expect people to tip their hat and commend you on your hunting prowess when it was killed in a back yard.

Lets be honest those doe shoots are filler content to show them as conservationists doing their part to curb the urban deer population, but there is no way that they have the followers that they have without the buck videos...
 
DeerCamp said:
If the deer is on legal hunting property, getting him in range in a 1-2 day window is a big accomplishment.

In particular, a world record class deer - hard not to go after.

Me personally, I don't love killing for clicks. But if it's legal and fair chase, then who I am to point fingers.
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Is it though? When I went to my permit class the guy opens his back door said buddy would be there in a few minutes. With in the next 5 minutes a buck walked in to his kitchen to eat his breakfast. Then he came over for the guy to rub his forehead. After that the buck walked out the door. The guy said that buddy would be back in the morning. Same time everyday. With in a 15 min window.
 
kaizen leader said:
Killing them should be done discreetly and not advertised they were killed in someone's subdivision. Archery is best and not in plane sight. I agree it's not much of a hunt and that's ok by me.
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I agree 100%. If you can afford it, one of those high end .44, .45, .454, or .50 caliber air rifles (silenced) could be used too.
 
30-06 type of guy said:
Can we just ban seek one conversations after this? If that's what gets his heart pumping and it's legal let it be. I don't get why ppl get so upset about other ppl making money off YouTube/social media. They put in the time and effort to do it then so be it.
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Has nothing to do with the money. You are wanting to ban discussion, but the people who don't agree with what he is doing are the ones in the wrong.. hypocritical a little?
 
SinningSaint33 said:
I see a lot of comments that what SeekOne does isn't "hunting". Y'all the same people that build a heated box blind and shoot a deer 150 yards away in a food plot that was planted just to attract deer? Is that actually hunting?
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No. that is why I posted a thread a while back, about have we become more land managers vs actual hunters. I think on private, probably so in a lot of cases, but on public land no way, you have to hunt, you can't plant food plots and put up shooting houses.

That being said, on private lands, it is a whole heckuva a lot tougher to kill a 190" buck in the country doing what you describe above vs. what Seek One does. If your neighbors hunt too, it's likely if a deer hits 130"+, everyone is gunning for it. Seek One's deer are protected from hunting, until he finds them, then finds permission, or pays for it to gain access to a nook and cranny of land that allows him to hunt deer with no real fear of people. It is not the same. It is not an accomplishment, other than he made a good shot. It is no better IMO than shooting one in a high fence.
 
deerhunter10 said:
Has nothing to do with the money. You are wanting to ban discussion, but the people who don't agree with what he is doing are the ones in the wrong.. hypocritical a little?
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Agree or disagree with him… People are entitled to their own opinion. I myself disagree with people bashing his name and what he does for a living.
 
I'm a nobody so my opinion doesn't matter enough to express. But as a fly on the wall who's been on this wall for a long time I can see what's happening and potentially about to happen. What are the chances B&C even recognizes it? I'd say nil. And regardless, does anybody believe Milo Hansen won't have legal challenges? Ask Mich Rompola what happens to an industry star who claims world record on a controversial buck. Different circumstances but the scenario will play out very similarly. Also consider that a world record isn't just another big buck. It won't only buzz around the hunting community. It'll bring international attention from major news stations and this conversation will be played out & broadcast on TV, not to mention the exponential attention it'll pull via social media and podcasts. As well as the conversation is going on this forum I'm sure it'll be just fine on the national 5o'clock news.

The hunter in question is well aware of all of this, hence the seeking of advice from social media. He knows full well what kind of sh!t storm will follow, and potentially the damage it'll do to not only his career but hunting in general. At minimum it'll bring incredible scrutiny down on urban hunting. Anybody who thinks it won't will have quite the surprise. Nobody thought Biden could beat Trump, either. But look where we're at. Again, the hunter is well aware of the potential, dare I say likely consequences. Otherwise we'd not be talking about it right now. We'd only hear about it once it was killed, and it would be celebrated with all the accolades such an accomplishment deserves. But since it's an urban deer things are different. In what other legal scenario would a known trophy hunter take pause to ask if it's ok to kill a world record? Regardless of your personal feelings on the ethics of the situation, I don't see how anybody can think going through with it will be good for anybody in the hunting community. He's not going to get the positive recognition a world record from the wilderness awards. And it's not a stretch to imagine we all may be put in position to defend our rights as hunters, at least to some degree. Again, he's aware of all this and more, hence the question in the first place.
 
ImThere said:
Is it though? When I went to my permit class the guy opens his back door said buddy would be there in a few minutes. With in the next 5 minutes a buck walked in to his kitchen to eat his breakfast. Then he came over for the guy to rub his forehead. After that the buck walked out the door. The guy said that buddy would be back in the morning. Same time everyday. With in a 15 min window.
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Buddy would be on the table for breakfast the next mornin.
 
bowhunterfanatic said:
Not entirely correct. He was killing solid deer before YT but they didn't really start killing the giants until filming started.

And if you think the deer he is hunting are just as wild as a deer in the middle of let's say LBL, I've got some oceanfront property to sell you. Do they know they're being hunted? Sure they do. But they can't hide can't like a deer in a normal hunting scenario would.
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100%
 
I've watched their stuff. I've always wondered about their tactics for gaining permission. Gaining permission is hard! Even for those of us dealing with farmers and rural landowners who are mostly pro-hunting. Just imagine trying to get that permission in a sea of non hunters, entire neighborhoods made up of people who, for the most part, are anti-hunting. Just how do they pull it off? It's gotta be $$$$$. I've always wondered if they didn't offer a smaller amount just to get on the ground, with an added stipulation of X amount extra if they killed a deer on that particular property. They know going in that they are after a giant buck that's gonna get clicks on social media. Knowing that, they might be offering several thousand dollars to the homeowner IF they kill that deer. "Hey pal, heres $500 if you'll let me hunt and I'll throw in another $7500 if I actually kill a deer."
 
kaizen leader said:
Just don't tell anyone.
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That's my point exactly. Why ask permission ? If you feel it is ethicly right IYHO just do it . Some on here have shot deer in their backyard and I don't feel its wrong if they did it legally . If you feel ok doing it and it's legal be like Mike just do it !!! People at times put certain deer most likely a buck on a pedestal but it's just a deer like all the rest although it may get alot of attention being a world class buck . Those of you who feel it's wrong that's your opinion which you have that right . Would I feel like I had accomplished a great feet killing a almost tame deer even though it was a Would record is totally a different question but would I still kill it having a chance ....you bet I would !!
 

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