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Seek One’s dilemma

BSK said:
Very, very few people in suburbia hunt. And that's one of the problems. They have a very negative opinion of hunting and hunters that has been driven by the media. And Youtubers like Seekone just reinforce that hunters are jerks and glory hounds that want to show off by killing.
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Thank you for making my point. These suburban nonhunters have never heard of seek one. They're not sitting around watching their videos. We can agree on that much??
 
batten_down said:
Thank you for making my point. These suburban nonhunters have never heard of seek one. They're not sitting around watching their videos. We can agree on that much??
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What about the ones that are dealing with him and people like him personally? You're not seeing the entire picture imo. It's not just about the videos and everything else that leads into that videos, not to mention their whole social media presence. We have no idea how many people they actually get in front of and that as a whole is the issue. Hunting is under major attack stop giving them ammunition.
 
deerhunter10 said:
What about the ones that are dealing with him and people like him personally? You're not seeing the entire picture imo. It's not just about the videos and everything else that leads into that videos, not to mention their whole social media presence. We have no idea how many people they actually get in front of and that as a whole is the issue. Hunting is under major attack stop giving them ammunition.
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I see what you're saying. But that's a stretch too. For every one seek one out there, there's probably 250 guys doing the same thing that you never hear about. Before you say "I don't know about that" keep in mind we're talking about very big, and very well known bucks.

Seek one not the only one killing city deer. Been happening for decades. Been written about in magazines like North American Whitetail
 
mayberryrick said:
I like this post. Who cares what he does…..? You do you! Stay in your lane. That's what's wrong with a lot of this world today. People don't mind their own business.
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Kinda hard to mind your own business about something when someone throws it out there all over the gram and YouTube asking for people to be in their business. Kinda counterintuitive to me
 
EastTNHunter said:
Kinda hard to mind your own business about something when someone throws it out there all over the gram and YouTube asking for people to be in their business. Kinda counterintuitive to me
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Only affects dudes with the gram. I don't have the gram. Never did. Whatever people from any and all walks of life do for gram clout, doesn't concern me. If you don't have the gram, why does it bother you guys so much? If you have the gram, lol
 
batten_down said:
Only affects dudes with the gram. I don't have the gram. Never did. Whatever people from any and all walks of life do for gram clout, doesn't concern me. If you don't have the gram, why does it bother you guys so much? If you have the gram, lol
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I don't have the gram. I have no idea how it works or what people do on it. But a lot of the folks in those houses do. It doesn't offend me in the slightest. My point is it making hunters look bad to non hunters. I have never watched a seek one video before, and I don't recall participating in the past firestorm about calling what they do "hunting" or not.
 
So here's a serious question to all on this debate. At what point do we as hunters and we can agree that we pretty much all are besides Ruger lol. At what point do we stop hiding from people who don't agree with hunting? Are we in a sense bowing down to what they want by hiding the fact that we've killed a deer perfectly legal but we want to hide and say we don't want you to see this because it makes hunters look bad. Facts are facts and this is America, land of the free. I say if they don't want to see a dead deer don't look. Piss on em. Hunting is a way of life that also changes daily. As men of this country we've got to start standing up for the things we believe in and stop letting people who don't believe the same way intimidate us to where we're hiding because we may look bad. I'm probably not a good ambassador for the sport in some peoples eyes but I'm also not gonna hide what I love. I dare one to say something to me about killing a deer lol, like I said Piss On Em!
 
We can disagree with someone and still be polite. Something about honey and vinegar…

And I'm also not of the illusion that we will win over anti hunters. Most of them will always be anti hunters.

But we can win over or maintain a good standing with non hunters that can help us in the court of public opinion and at the ballot box. We can't act like a bunch of Fudds or class-a horses butts, then ask why no one likes us. If we hold ourselves to a higher standard then we can "kill them with kindness" and hopefully sustain some and win others over.
 
BSK said:
Have you ever been involved in lobbying city councils to allow the management (through archery hunting) of suburban deer populations? I have. I've given educational talks to city councils and neighborhood associations. I've given testimonials about how ethically this can be done, and without interfering in the every day activities and safety of residents. It is a very hard sell to make. And then people like Seekone come along and ruin the whole situation. THAT is why I am so passionate about this topic. Getting those managed suburban archery hunts is incredibly hard. The last thing we need is glory hounds ruining it for everybody else that wants to ethically participate.
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Provide us one example of your efforts being ruined by people like seek one. I mean, it sounds good. I'll give you that. But who ruined your efforts. Did Timmy's pet buck die in the family swimming pool during his 7th birthday party?? Probably gunshot too...
 
BSK said:
Have you ever been involved in lobbying city councils to allow the management (through archery hunting) of suburban deer populations? I have. I've given educational talks to city councils and neighborhood associations. I've given testimonials about how ethically this can be done, and without interfering in the every day activities and safety of residents. It is a very hard sell to make. And then people like Seekone come along and ruin the whole situation. THAT is why I am so passionate about this topic. Getting those managed suburban archery hunts is incredibly hard. The last thing we need is glory hounds ruining it for everybody else that wants to ethically participate.
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I tend to disagree. They have also been to city council meetings.

I think they prove that city hunting can be done ethically and under the radar. They are fairly stealthy.

The difference is they record thier hunts. Then, country boys want to claim they are not real hunters, cheaters, and wussies.

Most bashing them have not seen any of thier techniques or hunts. These are guys that grew up just outside the beltway in Atlanta and got the bug to hunt and then learned how.
 
Antler Daddy said:
I tend to disagree. They have also been to city council meetings.

I think they prove that city hunting can be done ethically and under the radar. They are fairly stealthy.

The difference is they record thier hunts. Then, country boys want to claim they are not real hunters, cheaters, and wussies.

Most bashing them have not seen any of thier techniques or hunts. These are guys that grew up just outside the beltway in Atlanta and got the bug to hunt and then learned how.
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So it is OK to shoot one of the pet deer on a small urban lot knowing you don't have the legal means to recover it when it runs off the tiny lot?

Very suspect ethics for this country boy.
 
scn said:
So it is OK to shoot one of the pet deer on a small urban lot knowing you don't have the legal means to recover it when it runs off the tiny lot?

Very suspect ethics for this country boy.
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With respect, you likely have not watched thier videos. They are not hunting 1 acre lots.

Wounded deer typically head for cover and backyards are not where the cover is located.

But, let's assume they were hunting 1 acre lots. Would you support "pods" for archery that immediately tranquilized the deer so they did not run off and then you could just walk up and slit their throats? This would allow a lot of people to control the deer so BSK could keep them out of his roses. Kill them all in the suburbs…thier habitat has been taken over and they are just tame rats in the way.
 
BSK said:
How would a deer that's never been hunted "know something isn't right?" How could they know what they've never experienced?

I live in suburban Nashville and I've had to literally go out in my front yard and kick deer in the keesters to get them to stop eating my roses. They have absolutely no fear of Man because they've never been hunted. I could kill one with a pocket knife.
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Yeah. So go into the woods where they don't normally see people and see how they react.
 
Antler Daddy said:
With respect, you likely have not watched thier videos. They are not hunting 1 acre lots.

Wounded deer typically head for cover and backyards are not where the cover is located.

But, let's assume they were hunting 1 acre lots. Would you support "pods" for archery that immediately tranquilized the deer so they did not run off and then you could just walk up and slit their throats? This would allow a lot of people to control the deer so BSK could keep them out of his roses. Kill them all in the suburbs…thier habitat has been taken over and they are just tame rats in the way.
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You are 100% correct that I haven't watched their foolishness. But, reliable sources who have watched it said there is a video out there of them shooting a big deer on a small urban lot where it immediately ran off the land where they had permission to hunt and retrieve. Pretty crappy ethics to shoot a deer when you know that is most likely what is going to happen.

No pods for me. I had to deal with that bs many years ago.

I would support not hunting them on acreage where there is little chance of legal recovery.
 

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