Seek One’s dilemma

[AT Hiker]

What are the ethical means of "managing" these deer? Isn't legal take by a hunter one of those methods? Isn't filming it the real issue with the seek one haters? These are legitimate questions

Shooting a deer on a one acre lot, then trying to figure out how to legally recover it isn't very ethical.
IMO, monetizing it is the real issue.

 

[batten_down]

I don't want to watch anyone kill deer in a suburban neighborhood. And that's all they're doing - killing - not hunting.

In other words, you want fewer opportunities for law-abiding, licensed, and responsible hunters, and more taxpayer funded management techniques?

Slippery slope.

 

[AT Hiker]

This is just an attention stunt. The majority of the people who watch their channel are fans. So, this would be the equivalent of Taylor Swift asking her Swifties if she should drop a new album. They're just stroking their egos while already knowing the answer.

What do you call a seekone fan boy?

Seekonesy?

 

[scn]

Unpopular opinion. Like guntubers, hunting guys like HP and Seekone bring new hunters to the sport. People love to hate on them but unless we can make hunting popular we stand to lose it. More awareness is a good thing as it will more than likely bring advocacy.

Or, it can work in the opposite way. When nonhunters see such foolishness, they can be so turned off that not only don't they join the ranks of hunters, they become an anti-hunter.

IMO, folks like the seekone goobers cause much more damage than anything good.

 

[BSK]

In other words, you want fewer opportunities for law-abiding, licensed, and responsible hunters, and more taxpayer funded management techniques?

Slippery slope.

No. I do not want suburban hunting illegal. I don't want what Seekone is doing made illegal. I just think it's a TERRIBLE idea to glorify what they are doing and plaster it all over Social Media. Suburbanites HATE this stuff and it hurts the image of hunting and hunters with those who can decide our fate with a vote.

 

[ImThere]

some people have no rhyme or reason to what they'll defend.
Sure they can do it. But we don't have to call it hunting.
A man can dress like a woman but we don't have to call him a her.

 

[scn]

Some of the high horsemen have returned!

As have the grip and grinners.

 

[BSK]

And for anyone who says that are drawing more hunters into the fold, the last thing we need is more hunters that are sycophants of the Seekone types, emulating their behavior.

 

[batten_down]

No. I do not want suburban hunting illegal. I don't want what Seekone is doing made illegal. I just think it's a TERRIBLE idea to glorify what they are doing and plaster it all over Social Media. Suburbanites HATE this stuff and it hurts the image of hunting and hunters with those who can decide our fate with a vote.

So it is the taping that's the issue?

 

[ImThere]

In other words, you want fewer opportunities for law-abiding, licensed, and responsible hunters, and more taxpayer funded management techniques?

Slippery slope.

I don't think man buns, vegans and housewives like seeing a bloody deer die in their yard, on there block or on YouTube

 

[BSK]

So it is the taping that's the issue?

It is the public display and glorification of people killing big pet deer in the middle of a housing development. That is not hunting.

 

[batten_down]

I don't think man buns, vegans and housewives like seeing a bloody deer die in their yard, on there block or on YouTube

I wouldn't know. But I don't think it's the issue some of you have cooked up in your heads. Seeing them diseased and twisted up by car accidents probably makes em feel a lot better about things though, you're right. Good point.

 

[AT Hiker]

And for anyone who says that are drawing more hunters into the fold, the last thing we need is more hunters that are sycophants of the Seekone types, emulating their behavior.

We do not need more hunters, at this point. What we need are more people supporting hunters.
Just look at the grizz and wolf situation. It will never be resolved by recruiting more hunters, educated and pro hunter supporters who vote are the only chance we have at saving the way we manage wildlife in the USA.

To me it's a super simple concept.

 

[BSK]

I wouldn't know. But I don't think it's the issue some of you have cooked up in your heads. Seeing them diseased and twisted up by car accidents probably makes em feel a lot better about things though, you're right. Good point.

No, it is THIS that finally sways them into allowing suburban deer hunting. It is the Seekone types that end suburban deer hunting.

 

[batten_down]

No, it is THIS that finally sways them into allowing suburban deer hunting. It is the Seekone types that end suburban deer hunting.

You sound very familiar with them in particular. How much of their stuff have you watched?

 

[batten_down]

For the record. I've seen one of their videos and half of another one. I watched the Nashville buck get killed last year. Not my thing, but I thought it was pretty cool. They're a good group of dudes. There's no doubt in my mind that they try to do everything in their power to follow the letter of the law, minimize their impact, and make a quick ethical kill on their target animal. Something we should all strive to do.

 

[BSK]

You sound very familiar with them in particular. How much of their stuff have you watched?

Enough to know their goal. I've been in this business a long time.

 

[kaizen leader]

I don't want to watch anyone kill deer in a suburban neighborhood. And that's all they're doing - killing - not hunting.

 

[ImThere]

I wouldn't know. But I don't think it's the issue some of you have cooked up in your heads. Seeing them diseased and twisted up by car accidents probably makes em feel a lot better about things though, you're right. Good point.

I honestly think they look as one as an accident and one as someone murdered my pet deer.

 

[SC Manimal]

I don't watch the videos and dislike the negative attention. With that being said, I am one of those suburbanites and I think my son's 1st buck might be the scrawny 8 point my dog keeps chasing away. These deer need managed but not necessarily glorified.