spring 2019 total harvest numbers

[Bone Collector]

I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

Honestly nothing out of the ordinary IMO.

each chart shows the successful hunters (#) and then the kills (#) the little table shows the % change YoY. I did 19 vs. 18 and then 19 vs. 17.

Every County you named, went up in both categories vs. last year except Sullivan, which has declined each year.

Washington actually saw an increase this year vs. 17, but kills were lower by 3.




Keep in mind I believe a successful hunter is considered a successful hunter whether they kill 1 bird or 4 birds.

 

[Southern Sportsman]

Why are you going by 2017? Region 1 had 18.61 percent growth from 2018 to 2019! Region 4 had 4.75 percent growth from a year ago. Why do we always report the negatives? We also went up 3,000 birds as a whole. Just trying to figure why are we comparing to 2017 and not showing the growth we made from 2018?

Because 2018 was a historically bad year. 2019 was better, no doubt. And I'm very thankful for that. But it's not sunshine and roses just because we did better than the worst. And we're still well behind what most considered a good year in 2017, particularly in Region 1. I saw and heard a lot fewer turkeys this year than I would like so I would like to shoot for improvement.

Why do you insist that there isn't a problem?

 

[deerfever]

Show me where I said there is no problem? Show me where you have ever acknowledged that some areas do not have a problem? I said just above that we all need to realize that some areas have a problem and others do not. My area does not! Also go back and look at where I proposed way before South Carolina a three bird limit with only one bird in the first week! I also said to open season one week later. I even like the two bird limit for non residents which I never thought of. I did that because I know some areas are suffering and to me if we continue to put the state in a unit as a whole this would be the best solution for everyone. It is just amazing to me that some get almost mad if someone doesn't agree that turkeys are going extinct in TN. I was looking at in a positive way from one year to the next . My point is and said it earlier there has to be give and take , we are all after the same goal. Not a single person in this thread predicted we would go over 30,000 when this started! It was all gloom and doom, we improved and I hope it continues. I agree with tons of what is said on here but you can't judge the state as a whole by what you heard or seen where you hunt at and neither can I!

 

[Southern Sportsman]

Show me where you have ever acknowledged that some areas do not have a problem?

Literally two posts ago. I pointed out that Region 2 and Region 3 were on par with the exceptional kill numbers from 2 years ago. I hunted a place near the Region 1/2 border this year where I have hunted several times in the past. It was as good as I've seen it. But most of what I saw in west TN this year gave me cause for concern.

At some point you may have proposed lower limits and later season dates, but you have also criticized others for similar proposals suggesting that they shouldn't hunt before mid-April if they are complaining about the start date. Regardless, if we boiled it all down you and I could probably agree on most of the important stuff. But turkeys are struggling in Region 1. I'm glad they're doing good in you're area (region 2 I assume?). But don't suggest that I'm being unreasonable for pointing out a 16% decline in kill numbers since 2017 (in my region) simply because this year was slightly less bad than last.

 

[deerfever]

Southern I do think we agree on several things. My lower bird limit to 3 post is on page two of the old if I was in charge thread . We are never going to all agree on everything . In the end I come to realize we are never going to agree on everything and we are never going to get anything done unless we compromise and I think the
3 bird proposal is a good start . I just choose to look at the positive growth from 2018 to 2019 and couldn't figure why you were looking at 2017. You explained and that is fine. I truly hope region 1 gets back to those 2017 numbers. Again on the bright side you did have an 18 percent increase this year from last! Yes I have also disagreed with extremely short season suggestion of 3 weeks and no hunting of the afternoon. I did point out that I would be limited to 3 days of hunting if those things happened because of Church and work. In the end I will abide by whatever the TWRA puts in place ! I am just glad the harvest this year was better than most expected!

 

[Shooter77]

I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

Honestly nothing out of the ordinary IMO.

each chart shows the successful hunters (#) and then the kills (#) the little table shows the % change YoY. I did 19 vs. 18 and then 19 vs. 17.

Every County you named, went up in both categories vs. last year except Sullivan, which has declined each year.

Washington actually saw an increase this year vs. 17, but kills were lower by 3.

Thanks! strange how many people I know that are hard core hunters didn't kill but the numbers show increases. Hunter numbers don't see to be as high. I agree if a person kills 1 or 4, he's still been successful. My biggest problem, no matter what system i've used (app, IE, Google or Firefox), I get different numbers. Hell i get different numbers depending if I pick turkey harvest by county or state tab for the overall number. something is screwed up in a lot of ways.




Keep in mind I believe a successful hunter is considered a successful hunter whether they kill 1 bird or 4 birds.

 

[Bone Collector]

I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

Honestly nothing out of the ordinary IMO.

each chart shows the successful hunters (#) and then the kills (#) the little table shows the % change YoY. I did 19 vs. 18 and then 19 vs. 17.

Every County you named, went up in both categories vs. last year except Sullivan, which has declined each year.

Washington actually saw an increase this year vs. 17, but kills were lower by 3.

Thanks! strange how many people I know that are hard core hunters didn't kill but the numbers show increases. Hunter numbers don't see to be as high. I agree if a person kills 1 or 4, he's still been successful. My biggest problem, no matter what system i've used (app, IE, Google or Firefox), I get different numbers. Hell i get different numbers depending if I pick turkey harvest by county or state tab for the overall number. something is screwed up in a lot of ways.


Keep in mind I believe a successful hunter is considered a successful hunter whether they kill 1 bird or 4 birds.

I have had the same issue several times in the general forum thread ZachMarcus gave some insight as to how they are getting "the #" apparently where it says "include WMA" you just click the words and hope it sticks. I did that on this pull and it worked, but had issues when trying to pull for earlier years.