Bone Collector":3ewctr1p said:How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.
Southern Sportsman":2bwvrz5o said:Bone Collector":2bwvrz5o said:How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.
Me neither. I've gotten everything from 12k to 28k. I just check here because some people are able to get the right numbers. I also checked with the state yesterday and confirmed the numbers. Right at 31,200.
AT Hiker":1j9zicum said:Southern Sportsman":1j9zicum said:Bone Collector":1j9zicum said:How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.
Me neither. I've gotten everything from 12k to 28k. I just check here because some people are able to get the right numbers. I also checked with the state yesterday and confirmed the numbers. Right at 31,200.
We are assuming the state is correct, right? They have access to same exact data as we do (unless things have changed since Daryl was in charge).
Don't confuse the matter by applying logic to the situation. I could not agree with you more.Southern Sportsman":2u18tm1x said:Why they wouldn't establish different regs for the different regions is beyond me.
I don't think it should go by region, it should go by unit, just like they do for deer. They even added more deer units recently, but haven't even considered turkey units?Southern Sportsman":1uy10nux said:Region 2 and 3 was pretty comparable to the exceptional kill totals from 2017. Region 4 is down 11% from 2017 and Region 1 is down 16% from then.
Why they wouldn't establish different regs for the different regions is beyond me.
Shooter77":1iui89wx said:I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.
Bone Collector":1skpdgf4 said:Shooter77":1skpdgf4 said:I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.
JMO, but I don't think this line of thought is good to go off off. If you know guys that hunt 3-6 days per week, and who routinely kill 4 birds per year, it is possible that they have literally killed the populations where they are hunting, and simply do not have the large # of birds to hunt. They may be able to call a turkey out of an oven, but you can't call in and shoot what is not there. If you can't go somewhere else where there may be more birds, you won't kill many.
Of course that is their little area and doesn't mean other areas of the same county don't have birds, for whatever reason.
What counties are you looking for? there is a report for this very thing. Shows the # of successful hunters and # of turkeys killed. I actually got it to line up pretty close with the kill #'s others have posted (31,226 total).
deerfever":2w5futd1 said:Shooter again not at all trying to argue but I want to get this straight. The 2018 numbers are correct that show it going down but the 2019 numbers are part of a conspiracy to mislead people? I have watched the numbers all year and they have grown normal as we have went. You also have several that have said they called the TWRA and confirmed the numbers. I do not think that any biologic fact can be based off the fact that guys we know didn't hear as many or kill as many. A lady I work with sent me pictures constantly of Jake's and gobblers in her front yard. I had a salesman tell me that he had never seen so many turkeys as he travels around doing business. And I quote " A gobbler in every field I pass". Again I would not base anything on the two observations. What we all need to realize is some areas have changed for the bad but some have actually gotten better!
Shooter77":wfuips5h said:Bone Collector":wfuips5h said:Shooter77":wfuips5h said:I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.
JMO, but I don't think this line of thought is good to go off off. If you know guys that hunt 3-6 days per week, and who routinely kill 4 birds per year, it is possible that they have literally killed the populations where they are hunting, and simply do not have the large # of birds to hunt. They may be able to call a turkey out of an oven, but you can't call in and shoot what is not there. If you can't go somewhere else where there may be more birds, you won't kill many.
Of course that is their little area and doesn't mean other areas of the same county don't have birds, for whatever reason.
What counties are you looking for? there is a report for this very thing. Shows the # of successful hunters and # of turkeys killed. I actually got it to line up pretty close with the kill #'s others have posted (31,226 total).
The one guy that hunts up to 6 days a week and tagged out the last 17 years, hunts Sullivan, Carter, Johnson, Washington & Greene counties on 19 farms between those. So that's a pretty good distribution. if he was hunting 1-4 farms around a 10 radius, i would say yeah he's blown away the population.
Another guy w/his grandson hunts Sullivan, Washington & Hawkins, he got 1 & his grandson 2. They hunt 7 farms between those counties. He hunts almost every AM before work and then weekends with his grandson that's in HS.
I use to avg 3 a season, haven't killed one since 2017.