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spring 2019 total harvest numbers

Over 31,000! I would guess a few more will be checked in but I believe this is about it.
 

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31000 is WAY better than I expected for sure. We must have had a better hatch 3 years ago than I thought, as we killed several 3yos, and 1 4yo holdover from the great hatch we had 4 years ago.

Still the 2nd worst total TN has killed in the past decade if I'm correct, so not really any reason to think everything is hunky-dory in the turkey world.

Just pray these monsoons slow down, gonna be hard for the hens to successfully hatch and then raise little ones if this continues.

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The west side of the state stayed flooded and the no big game hunting reg was put into effect to end the season for some 2 to weeks earlier in addition the state cuts 3 weeks of hunting out of the state land here so I only had 2 weeks to hunt this year and didnt kill a bird. And know 2 others who had 0 birds. I'd imagine the number would be slightly higher minus those things. But was fun the few times I went.
 
Bone Collector":3ewctr1p said:
How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.

Me neither. I've gotten everything from 12k to 28k. I just check here because some people are able to get the right numbers. I also checked with the state yesterday and confirmed the numbers. Right at 31,200.
 
Southern Sportsman":2bwvrz5o said:
Bone Collector":2bwvrz5o said:
How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.

Me neither. I've gotten everything from 12k to 28k. I just check here because some people are able to get the right numbers. I also checked with the state yesterday and confirmed the numbers. Right at 31,200.

We are assuming the state is correct, right? They have access to same exact data as we do (unless things have changed since Daryl was in charge).


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AT Hiker":1j9zicum said:
Southern Sportsman":1j9zicum said:
Bone Collector":1j9zicum said:
How are y'all getting these #'s? I cannot get them no matter how i try to pull the data or where i pull it from.

Me neither. I've gotten everything from 12k to 28k. I just check here because some people are able to get the right numbers. I also checked with the state yesterday and confirmed the numbers. Right at 31,200.

We are assuming the state is correct, right? They have access to same exact data as we do (unless things have changed since Daryl was in charge).

Yes, I am assuming the state's numbers are correct. I don't think the problem is with the raw data. The state's numbers have stayed on track all year and a few people here have consistently gotten corresponding numbers. I think the problem is with the website/app. When we search through the "hunter's toolbox" it spits out numbers that are all over the place. But the raw data is available to the state.
 
On good authority, kill totals by region:

2019
Region 1 - 7789
Region 2 - 11,033
Region 3 - 6134
Region 4 - 6266
Total: 31,222

2018
Region 1 - 6567
Region 2 - 10,076
Region 3 - 5682
Region 4 - 5982
Total: 28,307

2017
Region 1 - 9230
Region 2 - 11,704
Region 3 - 6701
Region 4 - 7016
Total: 34,651
 
Region 2 and 3 was pretty comparable to the exceptional kill totals from 2017. Region 4 is down 11% from 2017 and Region 1 is down 16% from then.

Why they wouldn't establish different regs for the different regions is beyond me.
 
Southern Sportsman":1uy10nux said:
Region 2 and 3 was pretty comparable to the exceptional kill totals from 2017. Region 4 is down 11% from 2017 and Region 1 is down 16% from then.

Why they wouldn't establish different regs for the different regions is beyond me.
I don't think it should go by region, it should go by unit, just like they do for deer. They even added more deer units recently, but haven't even considered turkey units?


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Why are you going by 2017? Region 1 had 18.61 percent growth from 2018 to 2019! Region 4 had 4.75 percent growth from a year ago. Why do we always report the negatives? We also went up 3,000 birds as a whole. Just trying to figure why are we comparing to 2017 and not showing the growth we made from 2018?
 
I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.
 
Shooter again not at all trying to argue but I want to get this straight. The 2018 numbers are correct that show it going down but the 2019 numbers are part of a conspiracy to mislead people? I have watched the numbers all year and they have grown normal as we have went. You also have several that have said they called the TWRA and confirmed the numbers. I do not think that any biologic fact can be based off the fact that guys we know didn't hear as many or kill as many. A lady I work with sent me pictures constantly of Jake's and gobblers in her front yard. I had a salesman tell me that he had never seen so many turkeys as he travels around doing business. And I quote " A gobbler in every field I pass". Again I would not base anything on the two observations. What we all need to realize is some areas have changed for the bad but some have actually gotten better!
 
Shooter77":1iui89wx said:
I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

JMO, but I don't think this line of thought is good to go off off. If you know guys that hunt 3-6 days per week, and who routinely kill 4 birds per year, it is possible that they have literally killed the populations where they are hunting, and simply do not have the large # of birds to hunt. They may be able to call a turkey out of an oven, but you can't call in and shoot what is not there. If you can't go somewhere else where there may be more birds, you won't kill many.

Of course that is their little area and doesn't mean other areas of the same county don't have birds, for whatever reason.

What counties are you looking for? there is a report for this very thing. Shows the # of successful hunters and # of turkeys killed. I actually got it to line up pretty close with the kill #'s others have posted (31,226 total).
 
Bone Collector":1skpdgf4 said:
Shooter77":1skpdgf4 said:
I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

JMO, but I don't think this line of thought is good to go off off. If you know guys that hunt 3-6 days per week, and who routinely kill 4 birds per year, it is possible that they have literally killed the populations where they are hunting, and simply do not have the large # of birds to hunt. They may be able to call a turkey out of an oven, but you can't call in and shoot what is not there. If you can't go somewhere else where there may be more birds, you won't kill many.

Of course that is their little area and doesn't mean other areas of the same county don't have birds, for whatever reason.

What counties are you looking for? there is a report for this very thing. Shows the # of successful hunters and # of turkeys killed. I actually got it to line up pretty close with the kill #'s others have posted (31,226 total).

The one guy that hunts up to 6 days a week and tagged out the last 17 years, hunts Sullivan, Carter, Johnson, Washington & Greene counties on 19 farms between those. So that's a pretty good distribution. if he was hunting 1-4 farms around a 10 radius, i would say yeah he's blown away the population.

Another guy w/his grandson hunts Sullivan, Washington & Hawkins, he got 1 & his grandson 2. They hunt 7 farms between those counties. He hunts almost every AM before work and then weekends with his grandson that's in HS.

I use to avg 3 a season, haven't killed one since 2017.
 
deerfever":2w5futd1 said:
Shooter again not at all trying to argue but I want to get this straight. The 2018 numbers are correct that show it going down but the 2019 numbers are part of a conspiracy to mislead people? I have watched the numbers all year and they have grown normal as we have went. You also have several that have said they called the TWRA and confirmed the numbers. I do not think that any biologic fact can be based off the fact that guys we know didn't hear as many or kill as many. A lady I work with sent me pictures constantly of Jake's and gobblers in her front yard. I had a salesman tell me that he had never seen so many turkeys as he travels around doing business. And I quote " A gobbler in every field I pass". Again I would not base anything on the two observations. What we all need to realize is some areas have changed for the bad but some have actually gotten better!

Not arguing with you either. just crazy that the numbers are so high this year compared to last year. I use to see birds in fields all the time, this year, I've seen 6 gobblers with 1-3 hens, then 4 times seen 1-5 hens by themselves.
 
Shooter77":wfuips5h said:
Bone Collector":wfuips5h said:
Shooter77":wfuips5h said:
I have a hard time buying the numbers! No way the counties around me in upper ETN beat last years numbers. Either there was way more hunters that killed less than limit or there wasn't the birds there and some how the check in system is screwed up. I know guys that hunt 3-6 days a week and only 1 got 3 birds. rest were on 2 birds killed going into the last weekend. Most had quit by next to last week because it was dead. I would love the see the number of hunters reporting harvest for each county.

JMO, but I don't think this line of thought is good to go off off. If you know guys that hunt 3-6 days per week, and who routinely kill 4 birds per year, it is possible that they have literally killed the populations where they are hunting, and simply do not have the large # of birds to hunt. They may be able to call a turkey out of an oven, but you can't call in and shoot what is not there. If you can't go somewhere else where there may be more birds, you won't kill many.

Of course that is their little area and doesn't mean other areas of the same county don't have birds, for whatever reason.

What counties are you looking for? there is a report for this very thing. Shows the # of successful hunters and # of turkeys killed. I actually got it to line up pretty close with the kill #'s others have posted (31,226 total).

The one guy that hunts up to 6 days a week and tagged out the last 17 years, hunts Sullivan, Carter, Johnson, Washington & Greene counties on 19 farms between those. So that's a pretty good distribution. if he was hunting 1-4 farms around a 10 radius, i would say yeah he's blown away the population.

Another guy w/his grandson hunts Sullivan, Washington & Hawkins, he got 1 & his grandson 2. They hunt 7 farms between those counties. He hunts almost every AM before work and then weekends with his grandson that's in HS.

I use to avg 3 a season, haven't killed one since 2017.

My big issue is this. I was able to get the 2019 data without issue. Supposedly you have to click "Include WMA". I see the option, but do not see anything to check or click. When i pull the 2018, and 2017 data, I noticed they are slightly lower than what Southern Sportsman pulled.I'll look it over and let you know what i see.
 

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