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Why Vols fans should be alarmed?

Not proven to me . or Florida. Im sitting there watching the game saying run or pass by formation and by who is in the game , and got it right every time.
 
With all those years coaching, I'm guessing rust will shake off in a hurry. What better teacher to prepare coach A? For OC :super:
 
gator-n-buck":ua8viyh5 said:
I'm not sure that its been proven who's offense UT runs. CBJ has only had one OC since he has been a HC. Time will tell.

I wonder how must rust Debord will have to knock off. Also interesting that CBJ didn't promote Coach Z to OC. The OC change could be a make it or break it in year 3.



Im still waiting on a no BS answer as to what GNB would have done if it were him in CBJ shoes.

Do you take a risk in a make or break moment or do you go with what feels right and involves the least amount of confusion for everyone involved?
 
turkeyhunter":3476pery said:
Not proven to me . or Florida. Im sitting there watching the game saying run or pass by formation and by who is in the game , and got it right every time.

:D You do realize that when we played Florida with an injured Worley at QB, and Hurd and Lane also banged up, and maybe two healthy wide receivers, right? Not a lot of options that game.

I thought you were talking about the bowl game where the commentator opened his mouth and inserted his foot about the Vols tipping the play by the formation they were using. If you watch it again, you will notice that he stopped making that statement when he realized he was wrong.

However, even if we had been tipping, it sure didn't help the defense any :D !
 
gator-n-buck":3lbapaw0 said:
http://www.downthedrive.com/2011/5/13/2169815/the-difference-between-butch-jones-and-brian-kelly

You only saw the headline and ran with it before reading it, didn't you? Thanks for the positive Butch article from 2011 :rotf: !
 
gator-n-buck":2zbe5tus said:
I'm not sure that its been proven who's offense UT runs. CBJ has only had one OC since he has been a HC. Time will tell.

I wonder how must rust Debord will have to knock off. Also interesting that CBJ didn't promote Coach Z to OC. The OC change could be a make it or break it in year 3.

C'mon Gator, I know you're smarter than that. He was an OC before becoming a head coach, and he was pretty dang successful running the same offense that he still runs today.
 
gator-n-buck":hkhfnojw said:
UF fans are probably not very happy with Meyer but he's one of the greatest coaches every. CBJ couldn't hold Meyers and Spurriers jock... :)
You may or may not be right, but OBC has found out what it's like to coach without the almost unlimited wealth of talent available in Florida.......just another average coach.
 
Butch Jones, like any executive, did not rise to his level by being timid. He has supreme confidence in his abilities and does not make decisions because they are safe, pro or con of what the fans want, or he's thinking if I don't win x number of games next year or the year after I'm going to get fired. None of that entered into his decision making. He also did not recruit two straight top 5 classes because he lacks or cannot communicate a plan or vision or by not being aggressive (and hiring assistants who can recruit).

That is why his hiring of Debord is so perplexing and IMO runs counter to everything that is Butch Jones, the CEO. Me, if I've boldly and aggressively built a team of top talent, I'm going to be just as aggressive and bold when hiring an assistant. Sorry, but the Debord hiring doesn't fit in with what Butch has done to date. As a leader with supreme confidence in who I am and am building, I make bold moves not "safe" moves. When the CEO has to replace the COO, he/she doesn't hire the old CEO, they bring in new young blood from outside the enterprise or promote the division VP. That's what Saban and Meyer do. That Butch didn't do that tells me one of two things - he's a control freak or no new blood from outside was willing to work for him. Flame away.
 
bowhunterfanatic":3vl5huef said:
gator-n-buck":3vl5huef said:
I'm not sure that its been proven who's offense UT runs. CBJ has only had one OC since he has been a HC. Time will tell.

I wonder how must rust Debord will have to knock off. Also interesting that CBJ didn't promote Coach Z to OC. The OC change could be a make it or break it in year 3.

C'mon Gator, I know you're smarter than that. He was an OC before becoming a head coach, and he was pretty dang successful running the same offense that he still runs today.

I never watched his offense when he was an OC because those were small schools and weren't televised much. When he took over the head coaching job at Cincy, it basically looked like Kelly's offense. That's why I posted the article. I'm sure he knows the offense but most HC nowadays let the OCs run their own offense.
 
TeamMainStreet":16q0gdto said:
gator-n-buck":16q0gdto said:
I'm not sure that its been proven who's offense UT runs. CBJ has only had one OC since he has been a HC. Time will tell.

I wonder how must rust Debord will have to knock off. Also interesting that CBJ didn't promote Coach Z to OC. The OC change could be a make it or break it in year 3.



Im still waiting on a no BS answer as to what GNB would have done if it were him in CBJ shoes.

Do you take a risk in a make or break moment or do you go with what feels right and involves the least amount of confusion for everyone involved?

Simple answer and touched on it in other posts. He should of promoted Azzanni to the OC job and found a new WR coach. JMO.
 
So not wanting to completely overhaul his offensive stategy and making freshmen and sophmore players,from which this team is mostly comprised of, learn a completely new playbook has anything to do with it?
 
gator-n-buck":2en9t3t5 said:
TeamMainStreet":2en9t3t5 said:
gator-n-buck":2en9t3t5 said:
I'm not sure that its been proven who's offense UT runs. CBJ has only had one OC since he has been a HC. Time will tell.

I wonder how must rust Debord will have to knock off. Also interesting that CBJ didn't promote Coach Z to OC. The OC change could be a make it or break it in year 3.



Im still waiting on a no BS answer as to what GNB would have done if it were him in CBJ shoes.

Do you take a risk in a make or break moment or do you go with what feels right and involves the least amount of confusion for everyone involved?

Simple answer and touched on it in other posts. He should of promoted Azzanni to the OC job and found a new WR coach. JMO.


Please elaborate. Why would you have done this?
 
PalsPal":6av4dp91 said:
Clift Notes Anyone? No way I'm reading that drivel.
Cliff notes are--------OSU won a championship with Myer and now he ,OHVATN can taunt you. Good for Myer but his time ran out at UF also. Such a corrupt organization he made Charlie Pell look like a Preacher. We all enjoy it while it lasts. Good luck with your 15 min. sir.
 
baddnole":3tv7f66d said:
PalsPal":3tv7f66d said:
Clift Notes Anyone? No way I'm reading that drivel.
Cliff notes are--------OSU won a championship with Myer and now he ,OHVATN can taunt you. Good for Myer but his time ran out at UF also. Such a corrupt organization he made Charlie Pell look like a Preacher. We all enjoy it while it lasts. Good luck with your 15 min. sir.

Really... Bobby Bowden was no saint??? Didn't Bowden and FSU have to forfeit/vacate some games. I'm not even sure Pell or Meyer had to do that.

This thread has got the Vol fans coming out of the wood work. Hiring a new OC can make or break a program. Exhibit 1, would be Muschamp and him hiring the wrong OCs cost him his job. When Debord was at Mich. they won lots of their games with good "D" and an avg. offense. There's no doubt that this was a Good Ole Boys hire from the CMU days. Time will tell and lots of Vol fans are questioning this hire besides rival fans poking fun of it. Who knows, TN might look good in the I-formation and Dobbs becoming a drop back passer..... :tu: Debord hasn't coach qbs since 1986 and we all know how he made Brady a 6th round draft pick..... :pop:
 
gator-n-buck":2wr3tcp4 said:
When Debord was at Mich. they won lots of their games with good "D" and an avg. offense.

An average offense would have won us three more games last year ;) :rotf: !

BTW, anyone want to bet how "average" the offense will be this year :) ?
 
I really don't see anyone's Offense Blowing the Vols defense away and putting up Big numbers in 2015. Vols had a pretty dang good defense last year and it should be more improved and better in 2015.


With that being said, if the defense plays well like they should! And keeps the game low scoring and close. The Vols won't need a really good High powered offense lol an "Advantage" Offense should be enough to win IF the defense plays well like they should.
 

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