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I am safe from the accusations!! Have not been to TN since all this covid crap......first time in my life I have missed an opening week and possibly an entire turkey season. SUCKS!!!!
 
SEC":2x06vire said:
What makes middle TN shine like that? Perfect habitat? Rocky high ground? Larger tracts of unbroken hardwoods?

Diversity and cows imo


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I wonder if some Region 2 counties are more primed to see low numbers in the future than other regions. In comparing 2019 to 2020 harvest to date many counties in W TN for example are up a modest 25-35 birds. At the same time Cheatham is up 65, Montgomery is up 105, Giles is up a whopping 135. If the % jakes is higher than average in these same counties, could make for some quiet spring mornings in years to come.
 
If I punched in my dates correctly, jake harvest is up from last year. It's at 14.4% of the total this year compared to 10.7% for the same number of hunting days last year. I didn't breakdown the counties.

* EDIT: I did a quick look and Giles is at 16.7% juvenile harvest for this year and 16.9% for the same number of days last year.
 
Buzzard Breath":2ctz7q70 said:
If I punched in my dates correctly, jake harvest is up from last year. It's at 14.4% of the total this year compared to 10.7% for the same number of hunting days last year. I didn't breakdown the counties.
Thanks for crunching the numbers. That's actually not terrible BB...I've always thought anything approaching or exceeding 25% jakes is really high.
 
I'd think the increased kill number is directly related to so many folks being off work due to COVID-19. Lots of people with more time to hunt should drive the kill numbers up.


If you're going to be stupid, you'd better be tough!
 
Even if the percentage of jakes killed is the same as last year, it still equals a TON more jakes removed since total kills are up.

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How many people are out of work right now? Not to mention a few states restricting sales and a greater influx of out of state participants.
 
I have seen more people hunting now than I have in years. I try to hunt a lot during the week and usually I will not see hardly anyone. This year. It's a completely different story, there are people everywhere hunting. I am sure that it has a lot to do with folks being off work and In turn they hunt. I am also concerned that this increased hunter turnout and harvest numbers will directly influence a quieter spring next year. I guess time will tell.


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Andy S.":19fvea7x said:
catman529":19fvea7x said:
MickThompson":19fvea7x said:
Also remember that this is the first year with tag before you drag in effect.
the app doesn't even work lol


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Has worked fine for me and my crew. What issues are you having?
it worked fine for my 4th bird


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Bulk of the kills are more likely due to the nice weather and early spring. Plus there seems to be more turkeys this year than recent
 
How about a higher jake harvest because there are so many freaking jakes running around from a booming hatch?

Ive seen more jakes this year than i have in 10 years, so has everyone ive talked to. Some people here must live depressing lives because NO ONE even glances at a positive option.

We kill fewer birds population must be down and turkey hunting as we know it is coming to an end and we will never have another good harvest. The next year we kill lots of birds and turkey hunting will never rebound, everyone quit hinting right now.

So with the numerous jakes around, it seems like with an early season opener the birds were still able to mate and reproduce successfully.


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Goodtimekiller":294pddag said:
How about a higher jake harvest because there are so many freaking jakes running around from a booming hatch?

Ive seen more jakes this year than i have in 10 years, so has everyone ive talked to. Some people here must live depressing lives because NO ONE even glances at a positive option.

We kill fewer birds population must be down and turkey hunting as we know it is coming to an end and we will never have another good harvest. The next year we kill lots of birds and turkey hunting will never rebound, everyone quit hinting right now.

So with the numerous jakes around, it seems like with an early season opener the birds were still able to mate and reproduce successfully.


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THANK you for some positivity! Hunters are having success, having fun and filling the freezer and the only thing anyone can contribute it too is more hunters not turkeys... Same song and dance on Facebook..


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Goodtimekiller":6doitlge said:
How about a higher jake harvest because there are so many freaking jakes running around from a booming hatch?

Ive seen more jakes this year than i have in 10 years, so has everyone ive talked to. Some people here must live depressing lives because NO ONE even glances at a positive option.

We kill fewer birds population must be down and turkey hunting as we know it is coming to an end and we will never have another good harvest. The next year we kill lots of birds and turkey hunting will never rebound, everyone quit hinting right now.

So with the numerous jakes around, it seems like with an early season opener the birds were still able to mate and reproduce successfully.


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Very well said. I'd quit hunting if it made me a Debbie downer.
 
Goodtimekiller":2fyi9o8i said:
How about a higher jake harvest because there are so many freaking jakes running around from a booming hatch?

Ive seen more jakes this year than i have in 10 years, so has everyone ive talked to.
Not being a debbie downer, but because you, who sees more turkeys than any hunter I know or any hunter on social media, and your few buddies have seen a bumper hatch of jakes in your immediate area, tells us NOTHING biologically about the 2019 statewide hatch covering 95 counties and 27 million acres. Open your eyes, think big picture and realize the STATE is far bigger than your neck of the woods and the primo land you access. For my localized observations in middle and west TN, I have a FEW properties that appear to be better than the last five year average, but there are several other areas I frequent that are struggling bad. These areas were good to great 7-10 years ago, are not close in proximity to chicken litter operations, not prone to spring flooding, and are not hunted all that hard, probably average hunting pressure through the spring season and zero pressure in fall season. We all need to look at the big picture covering 95 counties, that is how STATEWIDE turkey management should be conducted.

For the record, I have hunted and took others hunting the majority of the days season has been open in middle and west TN, have witnessed plenty of success in the woods, and I have yet to see a single jake for certain, either hunting or riding down the road. I've heard a few jake gobbles and I have seen bigger black male birds while driving that were not strutting that could've been jakes, but I have only seen a few of them in my travels. Definitely male birds, but could not tell details with naked the eye at 300 yards and 60 mph. Generally speaking, this year seems to be above average in some of my areas for opportunity, but nothing to write home about. This is my localized observation and means nothing statewide.

As others have mentioned, early spring, record number of license sales, good/great weather across the state, tons of folks off work so in the woods more, and it is no surprise we're at 87% (27,187/31,264) of last year kill total after 14 days of regular season and 2 days of juvenile (36% of season gone by). I am tickled for the apparent bumper hatch in SOME areas last year, and the success we have had this year, but if poult production this summer/fall is no better than the last decade average, I will have serious concerns for the less than primo areas that make up the majority of the state. Sustainable huntable turkey populations and quality hunting throughout the state should be everyone's goal.
 
Andy S.":1l7qw32g said:
Goodtimekiller":1l7qw32g said:
How about a higher jake harvest because there are so many freaking jakes running around from a booming hatch?

Ive seen more jakes this year than i have in 10 years, so has everyone ive talked to.
Not being a debbie downer, but because you, who sees more turkeys than any hunter I know or any hunter on social media, and your few buddies have seen a bumper hatch of jakes in your immediate area, tells us NOTHING biologically about the 2019 statewide hatch covering 95 counties and 27 million acres. Open your eyes, think big picture and realize the STATE is far bigger than your neck of the woods and the primo land you access. For my localized observations in middle and west TN, I have a FEW properties that appear to be better than the last five year average, but there are several other areas I frequent that are struggling bad. These areas were good to great 7-10 years ago, are not close in proximity to chicken litter operations, not prone to spring flooding, and are not hunted all that hard, probably average hunting pressure through the spring season and zero pressure in fall season. We all need to look at the big picture covering 95 counties, that is how STATEWIDE turkey management should be conducted.

For the record, I have hunted and took others hunting the majority of the days season has been open in middle and west TN, have witnessed plenty of success in the woods, and I have yet to see a single jake for certain, either hunting or riding down the road. I've heard a few jake gobbles and I have seen bigger black male birds while driving that were not strutting that could've been jakes, but I have only seen a few of them in my travels. Definitely male birds, but could not tell details with naked the eye at 300 yards and 60 mph. Generally speaking, this year seems to be above average in some of my areas for opportunity, but nothing to write home about. This is my localized observation and means nothing statewide.

As others have mentioned, early spring, record number of license sales, good/great weather across the state, tons of folks off work so in the woods more, and it is no surprise we're at 87% (27,187/31,264) of last year kill total after 14 days of regular season and 2 days of juvenile (36% of season gone by). I am tickled for the apparent bumper hatch in SOME areas last year, and the success we have had this year, but if poult production this summer/fall is no better than the last decade average, I will have serious concerns for the less than primo areas that make up the majority of the state. Sustainable huntable turkey populations and quality hunting throughout the state should be everyone's goal.

Great post! Of course its everyones goal but I can attest that I am also seeing better Jake numbers even on the properties I hunt that were down significantly. I have seen a group of Jakes on almost every property I have hunted including public. Funny almost all of them have been gobbling jakes as well which is a little odd to me.
 

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