man we still arguing about creedmore stuff?
Lets get back to the original topic, have we determined if 270 is gay or not yet?
Lets get back to the original topic, have we determined if 270 is gay or not yet?
Define "gay". If going by the original definition...(Happy), I would say that most 270 shooters are (rightfully so) happy with their choice.man we still arguing about creedmore stuff?
Lets get back to the original topic, have we determined if 270 is gay or not yet?
Is it loud? I hate a loud gun more than recoil!I don't even engage my shoulder to the buttstock on my 6.5 CM bc it has a factory brake on it, and it has next to no recoil. Just touch the trigger and it barely moves.
It is loud, and has somewhat of a muzzle blast. I had a Savage a while back without a brake and it was still a pleasure to shoot regarding recoil, and not too loud either, but I still had to have hearing protection.Is it loud? I hate a loud gun more than recoil!
My son has a 9mm ar pistol that is quite possibly the loudest gun I have ever shot. I hate it and won't shoot it. It's loud with ear plugs and ear muffs on.It is loud, and has somewhat of a muzzle blast.
I agree...the CM is much more comfortable to shoot. The only reason I mentioned recoil difference is because I "KNOW" that some of the ones preaching it also shoot 300WM and SMLs. So I just assumed that recoil isn't much of a factor for them.I will add, you cant "throw out recoil difference" in an argument because it DOES impact shooting performance for most people especially for those that dont shoot a ton every year. A 270 has 50% more recoil then a 6.5 which is A LOT for a high percentage of people. Impacts site impact through the scope, impacts forming bad habits for shooting to name a few. I understand that for some 270 recoil isnt much at all which is great if you feel that way but for smaller or more recoil sensitive people 270 is right on that line of being uncomfortable to shoot.
not trying to add on to the argument between the 2 cause I dont own either caliber or plan to ever own either so I dont have a dog in that debate.
Speaking of hills, I would say the 30-30 still has an impressive mountain for the rest of the deer slayers to climb. Take a look at that ballistic chart and compare it with all of rest of them. It's not pretty but it puts deer in the freezer every year.When loaded with high BC bullets. Most folks don't reload or do they shoot at deer over 400 yards. They buy a gun a couple boxes of shells go to the range and go hunting. So you're calling folks ignorant for not hunting with a cartridge you don't hunt with. Got it. still stand by my statement. It's got a long way to go to get to the body count of the 270.
Agreed. The small advantage the CM has at "over 600 yards" is of no concern to 99 percent of hunters. Keep in mind, that's where the CM starts to CATCH UP!!. It's not like it was beating them up to that point. The link I posted above shows the CM still behind the 270 at 800 yards.I love guns and shooting, but I'm not a "gun guy" like some of you. I don't handload. I've never tried to understand a lot of the terminology yall use. I like to shoot and I shoot better and enjoy it more when there's less recoil. I shot a 7mm-08 for years and now I've been shooting a 6.5cm for a few years. I've never lost a deer with either. I worry more about shot selection and shot placement than kinetic energy and ballistic coefficients. I enjoy the manbun jokes and I don't know why the popularity of the 6.5cm gets people so spooled up. Shoot what you like. Practice with your rifle. Make good shot selections. Put the bullet in the right spots.
We just can't wrap our simple minds around how great it really is trapper. Maybe one day we will understand.Agreed. The small advantage the CM has at "over 600 yards" is of no concern to 99 percent of hunters. Keep in mind, that's where the CM starts to CATCH UP!!. It's not like it was beating them up to that point. The link I posted above shows the CM still behind the 270 at 800 yards.
If my memory serves me...the CM was designed for paper punchers...and I assume it excels at that. It just boggles my mind at all the people that get butthurt when you say that ...at practical ranges, other cartridges are better suited for deer hunting. Not to imply that the CM isn't capable...but at practical ranges, others are just as good...or even better.
As for my opinion...this is "tndeer", not "tnpaperpunchers". My opinion only applies to hunting Tennessee whitetail deer.
For the record, and I'm a big 6.5 fan, I would just as soon use a 243 win as anything else. And I've killed deer with everything from 223 to 45-70.
It's like the McLaren 720s... It performs great at 180 mph, but how many places around here can you drive 180mph?We just can't wrap our simple minds around how great it really is trapper. Maybe one day we will understand.
I handload 143 gr eldx for 6.5cm as well. Haven't had any issues with it causing excessive damage though.I've killed the last four or five deer I've taken with a Creedmoor 6.5 barrel on my TC Encore. Handloads with 143gr Hornady ELD-X.
I'm seriously considering retiring it. Not cuz it doesn't do an outstanding job, but cuz it has absolutely MANGLED every deer I've shot with it. It's doing too much damage. I couldn't bring myself to take photos of the last deer where I walked up on it cuz it looked like a really gross crime scene. Just nasty.
The link I posted above was a comparison using those bullets. The 270 shot flatter, and hit harder, than the CM beyond 800 yards. The CM did have less wind drift (2"less) than the 270.Think I need to run my .270 handloaded 145 grain eldx through the chrono and compare to the 6.5 handloaded 143 grain eldx. I am gonna guess that with the 270 running the same powder (imr4350), but 10 grains more, that velocities and drop will be better with the 270. I like both and have killed a lot of animals with both. Can't see any reason for bashing either.