It's not about speed

[Radar]

A chronograph is an important part of tuning. My MR6 was shooting 15 fps slower than was to be expected. It turned out my bow had the wrong modules. I was about to return the bow but with some help on the Mathews forum I was able to figure it out. Yes, if I spend almost $1K on a bow and it is shooting much slower than expected, I am disappointed.

A chrono is not a tool for tuning . It simply tells you how fast your bow is . If you are referring to draw length modules being wrong , then you should have known that without a chrono , it would have thrown your anchor point way off .
BTW , I heard your trail camera shows the moon phase and it's currently showing a full moon on your pictures .

 

[Radar]

A chronograph is an important part of [color:#FF0000] MY [/color] tuning.

There I fixed it for ya UTGrad!

You think top archers don't use a chronograph?

Sure they do....for 3D and indoor target shooting! I personally know some World Champions and I will tell you that accuracy and proper arrow flight is what they worry about when preparing for hunting, not how fast their equipment is or is not and even during 3D they aren't that worried because they almost always have to shoot speeds under what their bows are often capable of shooting--they use chronos to make sure they stay under the speeds of their classes. Actually most do not shoot max poundage, even when hunting--they shoot what is comfortable to them and where they can pull the bow back smoothly from difficult positions if need be. Have you tried to pull that Monster back in a squatting position while bending over while packed up with heavy clothing in your treestand and not having to move,or sway, the bow to get a smooth draw and then be dead-on accurate with it yet?

You certainly have the right to use whatever equipment you want to, but in the great big scheme of things the difference of 15-20 fps is minimal unless you going to be shooting for distance and that is the point everyone on here that has years more experience than yourself is trying make. Native Americans and indigenous people all throughout history have killed more animals with alot less speed using outdated equipment than any of us currently lose, they made up for that difference with accuracy.

Good post !

 

[UTGrad]

A chronograph is an important part of tuning. My MR6 was shooting 15 fps slower than was to be expected. It turned out my bow had the wrong modules. I was about to return the bow but with some help on the Mathews forum I was able to figure it out. Yes, if I spend almost $1K on a bow and it is shooting much slower than expected, I am disappointed.

A chrono is not a tool for tuning . It simply tells you how fast your bow is . If you are referring to draw length modules being wrong , then you should have known that without a chrono , it would have thrown your anchor point way off .
BTW , I heard your trail camera shows the moon phase and it's currently showing a full moon on your pictures .

Yep...pretty gross. The draw length was an inch short which definately didn't feel right.

 

[bobthebowhunter]

UTGrad , you are bragging about the benefits of using a speed bow for hunting , but have you shot a deer with your speed bow yet ?

Exactly what I was thinking. Thinks he's a part of something big because he bought the newest mathews. Trying to defend that overpriced bow. It'll kill the hell out of em....or so I'm told. lol

 

[UTGrad]

UTGrad , you are bragging about the benefits of using a speed bow for hunting , but have you shot a deer with your speed bow yet ?

Exactly what I was thinking. Thinks he's a part of something big because he bought the newest mathews. Trying to defend that overpriced bow. It'll kill the hell out of em....or so I'm told. lol

I will make sure you are the first to see a kill pic...where did you come from?

 

[TITANSFAN2104]

No doubt accuracy is the most important after all the whole point of archery is to hit what your aiming at, But for some of you to rag on anyone going after speed is ridiculous because everyone has their own preference!! Thats the reason they make different style bows. Also UtGRAD has a bow that with the 50-60 limbs could shoot 52# and be more efficient with better speed along with easier holding than most of you shooting your 60# long brace bows !!
I know thats not what he is doing but hell, its his money,bow,time and hunting experience. And for the guy above, he doesnt have to defend his latest mathews purchase to you, I or anyone else on this forum for that matter!! I really dont understand why people are on him about his ideas and preferences in a bow ?? Heck I like a good smooth shooting,fast bow , and most of the speed bows offer that today along with great speed that does make up for some inconsistency in yardage judging. So that would equate to better accuracy. To me i believe you need all pieces of the puzzle to be successful and it ultimately comes down to what each individual shoots the best and is comfortable with.
I definitely agree with RADAR and UT both as i like the best balance of speed with the best accuracy i can get.
Its crap though to basically bash anyone elses choice of bows or what they look for. I had an extreme and have an invasion and a hca speed pro on the way andd will give an honest opinion on each of the speed bows compared to my z7 !!! I will sell a bow just to try a different style and judge for myself and not worry about what anyone else "THINKS" I should shoot.
I personally think that UTGRAD made a great choice in bows and hopes he enjoys it and looking forward to seeing pictures from everyone this season... CANT WAIT...

 

[Rackseeker]

What I'm getting at are those guys who go for the most fps in a bow , and will go anal if a bow doesn't produce their desired IBO speed , regardless of how accurate that bow is in their hands .
I'm trying to provoke a little thought about what really matters in a bow setup . It's not about fps , it's about accuracy in your hands . Forget the chrono and choose a bow that is most accurate in your hands . I will take the most accurate , quiet setup into the woods with me every time . Some bows are more inherently accurate , some not . Speed shouldn't be the ultimate deciding factor when choosing the best setup .
To me it's not about the bow that produces the best IBO speed that goes into the woods , it's the bow I shoot best with .

I will have to agree with this.

 

[REN]

Wow this one went downhill fast lol

 

[knightrider]

chronos kill, hahahaha

 

[REN]

 

[knightrider]

lmao

 

[Radar]

It's been an entertaining thread . No harm in a healthy debate . Hopefully it will get some reading this to think past chrono readings and go for the most accurate setups , regardless of speed .
I have owned some of the fastest current bows on the market , so I speak from experience on both sides .

 

[Unicam]

Great discussion for the most part...I agree with both thoughts, I want fast, Quiet and good brace height and I demand accuracy. In my mind one comes from the manufacturer the other comes from the hunter. I have hunted with Whitetail, Whitetail II's, Precision Hunter, Buckmaster and now a Drenalin. Every one of these bows killed deer, at the time I bought them they were "the best, fastest bow on the market". The accurate part was my responcibility. I think there is a natural progression among archery hunters, you start with whatever you can get, basic weapon, then go to the fastest, meanest you can afford, then you get more forgiving, easier to use more comfortable weapon. I have always bought the best I could afford, practiced with it until I was very confident with it, then killed deer with it.

 

[W.Seay]

Thats why i always buy Mathews bows, I can get the best of all worlds

 

[Mossy Rack]

well after reading this I don't feel to bad about my ole golden eagle but I have always thought that my bow was to loud.

 

[BowGuy84]

A chronograph is an important part of [color:#FF0000] MY [/color] tuning.

There I fixed it for ya UTGrad!

You think top archers don't use a chronograph?

Top archers yes, top hunters no...not really. 3d shooters want all the speed they can legally get. Spot shooters want a slow heavy arrow.

If guessing yardage isn't the priority. It's not with me while hunting, then speed isn't as important as how well you senior the bow and how forgiving it is when form isn't perfect.

 

[UTGrad]

I can say that this new bow pretty much is in the kill zone out to 35 yards and a hold over on the top of the back at 40 yards will get me in the boiler room. I really like the draw and the accuracy. I am really pleased with this bow and can't wait to be in a treestand in 2 weeks!

 

[Headhunter]

In the kill zone out to 35 yards but hold over the top of the back at 40 yards. Something sounds wrong.

 

[Radar]

I lock in a single pin moveable pin for 25 and I'm good to 35 yards with a little hold over . 95% of my shots are less than 30 yards though . I'd rather rely on my woodsmanship skills to get close for a slam dunk shot than risk a long shot.

 

[UTGrad]

I lock in a single pin moveable pin for 25 and I'm good to 35 yards with a little hold over . 95% of my shots are less than 30 yards though . I'd rather rely on my woodsmanship skills to get close for a slam dunk shot than risk a long shot.

I lock mine to 25 as well. You had mentioned this on a post a couple seasons ago and that is what I have done since.