You saddle hunters don't know the difference in a deer and a kangaroo.
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Seek One knocks down a TN stud!!
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Rakkin6
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Rakkin6
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So I do live in a subdivision which is in the city limits and behind my house I own 20 acres literally behind my backyard gate. The land I own behind my house is zoned in the county. My property backs up to quite a bit of land and I have permission to hunt 120 acres that borders mine. I don't hunt it a ton but I do hunt it and my experience is that the deer back there are much more skittish than deer I hunt on large tracts of land. Now to my knowledge nobody is feeding these deer. But when I first bought my land and started hunting back there I assumed they would be more relaxed. Don't know if this is common since this is my only experience with hunting near homes.
I live in the city and have about 75 acres of woods between my house and interstate. I can be shooting my bow and the deer will stand behind it eating the clover I planted in corner of the yard. The same time, I step out of my yard into the woods, the deer go out of their skin trying to run away. I've hunted a few times over past 6 years and like you said, it's way more challenging. I can go to my farm in the country and deer not be as spooky. I can walk by them and they just look at me. I hunted VA NF land 4 years ago, I was 1.5 mile back, I shot a 7pt following a doe. She stood there and watched pack up, walk 70 yards to the buck, gut him and stayed in front of me about 40 yards as I drug him out for for the first 150 yards.
Some of the wildlife in my yard.
There's a spectrum of "urban" deer. Having wilderness at the edge of town and hunting deer on the border is one end of that spectrum. Hunting deer inside a populated subdivision or park setting where deer and humans have learned to cohabit is the other end of the spectrum. A deer used to being pampered and fed and protected by humans is obviously an easier target than one who simply resides near the border of town. That difference is critical to forming an opinion on the subject, and critical to discussing it.
As of yet I'm unaware of the wildness of the buck in question. The circumstances of the hunt will determine how I feel about it. If it was a "pet" neighborhood Bullwinkle then it was a deer who has lost its fear of humans, to the point of trusting them. No size antlers makes that admirable. But if it was a wild deer at the edge of town, still very fearful of humans, then it would be more legit in my opinion.
I'm skeptical because a 190" buck anywhere in TN would raise attention. If in the wild, that buck would have been hunted hard by multiple hunters. The safety of town is about the only reasonable chance a buck in populated middle TN could reach that age and size. Odds of it being a one in a million buck is well, one in a million. Due to its incredible size, it's difficult for me to believe it was not a neighborhood deer. I'm not above being wrong.
As of yet I'm unaware of the wildness of the buck in question. The circumstances of the hunt will determine how I feel about it. If it was a "pet" neighborhood Bullwinkle then it was a deer who has lost its fear of humans, to the point of trusting them. No size antlers makes that admirable. But if it was a wild deer at the edge of town, still very fearful of humans, then it would be more legit in my opinion.
I'm skeptical because a 190" buck anywhere in TN would raise attention. If in the wild, that buck would have been hunted hard by multiple hunters. The safety of town is about the only reasonable chance a buck in populated middle TN could reach that age and size. Odds of it being a one in a million buck is well, one in a million. Due to its incredible size, it's difficult for me to believe it was not a neighborhood deer. I'm not above being wrong.
woodsman04
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I see the same arguments in the turkey side because I am a turkey hunter. Decoys make it unsporting imo and lots of the guys using them and defending them are just about the kill to put on Facebook.
This guy is a tool. Zero accomplishment to killing a pet deer in a city. Not impressed one bit. If he wants to hunt and kill them then that's fine. If he wants to post them on social media that's fine too. I just hate the fact that he acts like it's a great feat and so many people back him and encourage it.
Yes deer in the suburbs need to be controlled population wise. But you need to shoot every deer, not only 190" bucks and then leave.
The only skill it took was finding permission. Yes that can be difficult.
Hunters like him give us a bad image. Smiling like he's such a great hunter. Screw off dude.
This guy is a tool. Zero accomplishment to killing a pet deer in a city. Not impressed one bit. If he wants to hunt and kill them then that's fine. If he wants to post them on social media that's fine too. I just hate the fact that he acts like it's a great feat and so many people back him and encourage it.
Yes deer in the suburbs need to be controlled population wise. But you need to shoot every deer, not only 190" bucks and then leave.
The only skill it took was finding permission. Yes that can be difficult.
Hunters like him give us a bad image. Smiling like he's such a great hunter. Screw off dude.
East TN Bowhunter
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This sums up my take on the whole situation as well. Ski, I too believe there are two sides to every story and you can't just make assumptions but Yes, being that big of a buck I too have a hard time believing it was not a neighborhood deer that hangs out in Karen's backyard everyday and does not fear humans one bit, but we cannot assume the circumstances.
Headhunter
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Deer in those situations can be tough. Deer in the subdivisions where they interact with people most everyday and at times are even being handfed, they are to the point of almost being tame. Also, when they are in close proximity to a house, a manicured yard, etc. where they are basically not bothered except for the occasional family pet barking at them, deer know they are in a safe zone and don't get to upset by anything.
I have seen it. At times, I have hunted most all my life in woodlots and farms surrounded by subdivisions, schools, businesses, etc. So many friends show me their pet deer in their back yards and they are. Sometimes super nice mature bucks. If they have a decent sized woodlot, thicket, etc. near them those deer do know the difference of being in the backyard and and being the woods. Deer know when they are in the woods and when they in a someone's yard where it is safe.
To kill any deer in a yard is NOT hunting by any means, it is shooting. I have no clue how deer know, but they know when they are in an area that they are not bothered. They do, I have seen it for 40 years of hunting. I have hunted for deer near populated areas, they can be some of the toughest deer to kill. When someone sits next to a house in a subdivision and shoots them in someone's yard, it has nothing to do with hunting, NOTHING. I have experienced that to, I passed on the opportunity, I could walk right up to the deer and they would stand there and look at me. I guess if you are interested in population control, then have at it, but it is not hunting in any way.
fairchaser
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Deer are very intuitive. They can tell the difference between a farmer and a hunter. When the farmer carries a rifle in their tractor, the deer are caught off guard. When a deer that's accustomed to walking freely in someone's yard and being hand fed suddenly encounters a hunter hiding in a blind with a bow, the deer is caught off guard. He has no chance to escape. This is the key difference between hunting and slaughtering. Call it what it is.
tntime
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I'll drink his Dunkle, eat some of your venision jerky, and y'all can battle it out however you do!We need a hashtag…
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I would shoot that buck in a heartbeat. I would shoot a doe out of someone's yard too without skipping a beat. I'd shoot one out of my yard from the porch as well and be glad for it. I would NOT however video it and post it on the internet bragging about it. Kill the stupid deer and butcher it and eat it, but good gravy stop thinking you accomplished something great and think you're something special. He probably sings Shania Twain songs out loud too.
I have lots I disagree with @BSK about, but I could sit and drink a beer with him any ole day and not get into a pissing match. Unless he makes drink another Dunkle! I may punch him in the face for something like THAT
Those guys are unreal at what they do . To beat it all that wasn't even the deer he was after out of that particular set.. that's a once in a lifetime deer and I'm with u congrats .. better to be lucky than good anywayMan a lot of hate/jealousy on here. I would shoot that deer anywhere I could and have an ear to ear smile about it. Not everybody walks miles into the mountains to kill an "old" buck and that's ok. Hunting a wary buck from your shooting house over a food plot more "sporting". Lol this is like the gun rights argument where does it stop. Just because I don't want or need a fully automatic rifle doesn't mean somebody else doesn't want one and like we're seeing if we divide and get down on each others means and methods it gives the "other side" more ammo against us all. Nice buck man!
If Seek One and Luke Bryan had a kid, it would be Florida Georgia Line. Come out wearing a flat bill, skinny jeans and drinking anNot possible to be proven wrong!!
They both probably drink Bartles and James wine coolers…"Man, I feel like a woman!"
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So the farmer or rancher who keeps a gun with him and shoots a deer is slaughtering?
SES
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I could have killed the biggest buck of my life last year during muzzleloader season. I walked in the door at the house to grab some lunch, looked out the kitchen window and about crapped my pants when I saw him standing in the backyard. I kept my muzzleloader next to the back door just in case, so I grabbed it and eased on to the porch. He slipped back in to the woods and I grabbed my grunt call which I also kept next to the back door. Grunted a few times and snort wheezed. That buck came crashing back in to my back field and worked his way within 50 yards of my back deck. I had the crosshairs on his boiler room, but I couldn't pull the trigger. Killing that buck in that way would have meant nothing to me. I'd be ashamed to look at the mount every time I would looked at it. Totally legal, but I don't want to kill deer that way. Just not for me.
Omega
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I don't have a large back yard, but have a few deer that hang out around my fence, and sometimes in it. I don't consider them game, but will cull them if they become an issue such as tearing up my garden. For those with wooded acres behind their houses, I would probably consider that hunting. I have seen deer change their posture depending on where they are, like here at Ft Campbell, in some areas in the cantonment area , you almost have to spook them to get them to move out of your way because they KNOW there is no hunting in these areas.
Probably just dollar signs to him anyway.
Tom Collins
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He is douche who doesn't see things the way we would see it.
Tom Collins
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And internet clout
