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Seek One knocks down a TN stud!!

BigRod said:
Sh!t bout to get real between catman and headhunter!!!
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I have nothing more to say. He's not worth wasting time over.

As for the main discussion here, I know Lee personally and very few people work as hard as he does to kill deer like he does. It's a year-round full time job knocking on doors, running cameras, putting out minerals and treestands, dealing with Karen neighbors and other hunters, etc etc. If anybody earned that deer, he did. And anyone saying the deer is tame hasn't done much hunting in the suburbs. I've done it, they're not tame, and bucks like that one regularly travel for miles.
 
catman529 said:
I have nothing more to say. He's not worth wasting time over.

As for the main discussion here, I know Lee personally and very few people work as hard as he does to kill deer like he does. It's a year-round full time job knocking on doors, running cameras, putting out minerals and treestands, dealing with Karen neighbors and other hunters, etc etc. If anybody earned that deer, he did. And anyone saying the deer is tame hasn't done much hunting in the suburbs. I've done it, they're not tame, and bucks like that one regularly travel for miles.
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Yea sir! Wasn't knocking Lee at all! My boys are huge fans of you and them ole boys! Like I said in my previous posts on here a deer killed legally in the suburbs is just as good as one killed in the mountains
 
catman529 said:
I have nothing more to say. He's not worth wasting time over.

As for the main discussion here, I know Lee personally and very few people work as hard as he does to kill deer like he does. It's a year-round full time job knocking on doors, running cameras, putting out minerals and treestands, dealing with Karen neighbors and other hunters, etc etc. If anybody earned that deer, he did. And anyone saying the deer is tame hasn't done much hunting in the suburbs. I've done it, they're not tame, and bucks like that one regularly travel for miles.
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Hard work? Knocking on doors we have different definitions on hard work. And anyone that hunts puts in work hanging stands, minerals, dealing with other hunters etc. I know people that hunt city deer and even they will tell you that it's easier. My parents have deer big deer that will stand there and eat while they are grilling out. It's turned into a social media game. Never heard of him til now but after quick searches seems he is winning at that. At the end of the day it is legal so there's that. Impressive? Not to me.
 
killingtime 41 said:
I think what we all are really trying to say is. Most of us when we hunt. It's not just about the kill. We take in our surroundings. And it adds to the experience we call hunting. And the kill is just icing on the cake. That makes it all the better. To be in nature and to kill deer in there home. Especially the wisest of them all the mature buck. We love to hunt them because of how smart and hard to kill they are in they're domain. A subdivision is not where deer should be. It is where they are now forced to be. We can confirm that at least 98 percent of people on here would have killed a buck that big in the same way he did given the opportunity. But what 98 percent are also saying is. It's not something we would feel accomplished about. Because of the lack of skill it would take to do so. Most people are impressed with skill no matter football or any sport. But this pic by itself will be paraded all over the internet with no story to follow. I think we all are misunderstanding one another. I say beautiful buck no doubt. And congrats to him. All will not see eye to eye.be honest the only hunting show I watch is Catman. And a little THP from time to time.
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I will say this.... You gotta hunt em where they're at!! The way that deer hunting is going , it wont be long you will have to hunt the first avaialble piece of property you can find , subdivision or not!!
 
deerhunter10 said:
Hard work? Knocking on doors we have different definitions on hard work. And anyone that hunts puts in work hanging stands, minerals, dealing with other hunters etc. I know people that hunt city deer and even they will tell you that it's easier. My parents have deer big deer that will stand there and eat while they are grilling out. It's turned into a social media game. Never heard of him til now but after quick searches seems he is winning at that. At the end of the day it is legal so there's that. Impressive? Not to me.
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Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. I'll put it this way. I've hunted high pressure, low pressure, public land, private land, suburbs, boondocks, you name it.

There's a whole lotta BS to deal with trying to legally hunt in the city, especially when 90% of people don't want hunters, and the other 10% are already hunting and don't want competition. Add to that the unpredictable nature of older bucks, small properties where bucks only pass through, and juggling hunting spots in multiple cities in multiple states, all while filming everything for a show, and handling the business side of things. The list goes on.

If you think those dudes don't work hard, you are very much mistaken. If it were easy, we'd all be doing it.
 
I sign up for a urban hunt in northern Arkansas. With my xbow. People lives in the town. Wants the numbers knocked down. Alot of accidents with vehicle/deer. In winter deer will eat every thing up. In Arkansas last of December i think it is. No feeding the wildlife. I have seen first hand what CWD does too deer. It gets into a area. It takes a good while to recover from it. Some people are afraid to eat the deer. Even after the area has recovered. I am not going to knock how another person wants too hunt. Thats up to the person doing the hunting. I can only control way i hunt. Only 1 person can judge me in my life that i have to answer too. That will make a difference thats god.
 
catman529 said:
Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. I'll put it this way. I've hunted high pressure, low pressure, public land, private land, suburbs, boondocks, you name it.

There's a whole lotta BS to deal with trying to legally hunt in the city, especially when 90% of people don't want hunters, and the other 10% are already hunting and don't want competition. Add to that the unpredictable nature of older bucks, small properties where bucks only pass through, and juggling hunting spots in multiple cities in multiple states, all while filming everything for a show, and handling the business side of things. The list goes on.

If you think those dudes don't work hard, you are very much mistaken. If it were easy, we'd all be doing it.
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No, we wouldn't because most of us like to get away, into the woods while hunting.

Listening to traffic, landscaping equipment, people talking, etc isn't my idea of hunting.
Also, there's the 'shooting pet deer' aspect of the whole thing.
(We're probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one.)
 
This thread is full of half truths…..
There is a lot of factors involved in this type hunting. Some have learned the hard way that you better have your ducks in a row if you are gonna participate. There is good reason they didn't retrieve the buck they could see laying 10ft across the property line until they got permission.

Anybody that says these deer are hard to hunt isn't being honest, and especially this time of the year when bucks don't travel much.

Why don't these guys ever hunt LBL?
I mean they don't mind working hard for deer, right???
 
A buddy just sent me these pics from his backyard. He's got a great stand already built to shoot from..... his deck.

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Roost 1 said:
This thread is full of half truths…..
There is a lot of factors involved in this type hunting. Some have learned the hard way that you better have your ducks in a row if you are gonna participate. There is good reason they didn't retrieve the buck they could see laying 10ft across the property line until they got permission.

Anybody that says these deer are hard to hunt isn't being honest, and especially this time of the year when bucks don't travel much.

Why don't these guys ever hunt LBL?
I mean they don't mind working hard for deer, right???
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Maybe they don't want to. Just like you don't want to hunt in urban environments. So what?
 
Carlos said:
No, we wouldn't because most of us like to get away, into the woods while hunting.

Listening to traffic, landscaping equipment, people talking, etc isn't my idea of hunting.
Also, there's the 'shooting pet deer' aspect of the whole thing.
(We're probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one.)
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That's a matter of preference, not hunting in the city with all the traffic and noise. Hunting is the chase of wild game, and deer are wild game. They're not pets. Even if they walk up to somebody feeding them in their yard, they're not gonna walk up to the guy in camo hiding. They learn quick.

Roost 1 said:
Anybody that says these deer are hard to hunt isn't being honest, and especially this time of the year when bucks don't travel much.

Why don't these guys ever hunt LBL?
I mean they don't mind working hard for deer, right???
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Don't travel much? The deer from this past weekend was killed over a mile from where he was last seen. One of the deer killed last year was seen 3 miles from where he was killed, the day before he was killed. Why don't they hunt LBL? Maybe because they're from the city, they like hunting in the city, and built their following based on that.

If it's so easy, then start knocking on doors. You got over 3 months of season, get back to me in January and let me know how you did.

I'll tell you what was easy, the mature 8 point I killed on public last year. Waited for the rut and killed him on the first sit. Guess that ain't hunting, cause it wasn't hard.
 
squirrel_hunter said:
I sign up for a urban hunt in northern Arkansas. With my xbow. People lives in the town. Wants the numbers knocked down. Alot of accidents with vehicle/deer. In winter deer will eat every thing up. In Arkansas last of December i think it is. No feeding the wildlife. I have seen first hand what CWD does too deer. It gets into a area. It takes a good while to recover from it. Some people are afraid to eat the deer. Even after the area has recovered. I am not going to knock how another person wants too hunt. Thats up to the person doing the hunting. I can only control way i hunt. Only 1 person can judge me in my life that i have to answer too. That will make a difference thats god.
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Thanks for your perspective SH. I'm curious because I'm in a area with high CWD, how you see when and how we will recover. What actually happens? Is it the perspective of the hunter that changes or does the deer population recover? Thanks.
 
catman529 said:
That's a matter of preference, not hunting in the city with all the traffic and noise. Hunting is the chase of wild game, and deer are wild game. They're not pets. Even if they walk up to somebody feeding them in their yard, they're not gonna walk up to the guy in camo hiding. They learn quick.


Don't travel much? The deer from this past weekend was killed over a mile from where he was last seen. One of the deer killed last year was seen 3 miles from where he was killed, the day before he was killed. Why don't they hunt LBL? Maybe because they're from the city, they like hunting in the city, and built their following based on that.

If it's so easy, then start knocking on doors. You got over 3 months of season, get back to me in January and let me know how you did.

I'll tell you what was easy, the mature 8 point I killed on public last year. Waited for the rut and killed him on the first sit. Guess that ain't hunting, cause it wasn't hard.
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Oh I'm sure getting the permission is the hardest part. Staying within the law is next.

Im sure those deer are harder to hunt when they are after does but they aren't moving much this time of the year.

I'm positive LBL is harder to hunt which is why they aren't there. You could spend a lot of time in LBL for a 100" deer that wouldn't generate as many "likes" and the thread wouldn't be 16+ pages long with outdoorsman arguing about whether or not it's "real" hunting.

Congrats on your public land 8pt, we all know the magic happens in Nov and you need to be in the woods as much as possible.
 
EXTREMELY interesting topic!

At the end of the day...here is the truth as I see it.

Personally , I have no problem with anyone supporting our sport by hunting legally, ethically, responsibly. KEYWORD-SUPPORTING (not hurting with negative P/R)

My credentials:
I have killed more whitetails with a bow in more places in more states in more environments (mostly high pressured public), than most bowhunters could ever imagine. 338. (insert chest thumping pic here)
It has been a STUDY on anatomy, blood trailing, deer behavior, and other hunters.

It is an absolute MIRACLE I stayed married for 41 years through it all. (great wife)

Here is what I know.

1-it is very hard to make generalizations about how deer as a group will act in a given environment.
2-deer, especially the mature (NOT necessarily BIG) ones have dramatically different personalities (think mature German Shepard)
3-IMO..."MATURE" as far as a hunter who is trying to gauge his hunting skillset is concerned, SHOULD mean "human interaction" level of experience for any deer.
and NOT size of antler or body.

I have seen 1.5 year old heavily pressured with MANY negative human scent/interaction encounters act like VERY mature, wary deer. And become almost impossible to get close enough to, to kill.

I have, and do hunt "yard deer". I think the kill count for me on yard deer is up to 4 now. EXTREMELY stressful, not all that enjoyable type of hunting. Why? Because everything has to be perfect to execute the shot and keep the animal on the small parcel as it dies. I do this type of hunting strictly to take a few flower eaters off this property and to fill freezers.

Make no mistake. Killing the deer I do in that residential setting is NOTHING like killing the deer I do at AEDC, Prentice Cooper, Beaver Dam, Cedar Creek, or any other public high pressured area I've ever hunted. Deer walk across my scent trail in any of those public hunting areas and they are GONE!
In the yard situation they follow my footsteps to the tree, or hot tub.
Not the same animal.

Even the older age class deer can act different. They just aren't always as wary about human scent.

As an example...I know a guy who killed a 180+ in a residential setting. It was huge. He was proud of that buck and was very nervous at making the shot with his bow at the time.
A few months later I saw a video of a man feeding this buck in his backyard from a few feet away.
He had known the buck from a button. It was the same 180 that the other guy killed a few years later. The hunter had no idea it had been hand fed shortly before it was killed.

Legal-Yes.

Nothing wrong there.

But I am sure other residential deer have different personalities. FOR CERTAIN!

Rutting deer act different than out of rut deer. Sex tends to make them less wary but not always.

I have captured trail cam photos of the same bucks in different sub-divisions miles apart. Still not as spooky as their pressured counterparts but obviously traveling miles in the rut.

I also believe that killing a hunter wary mature buck is MUCH more about HIM making a mistaken you being there at the right time than YOU being a skilled hunter.

There are VERY few hunters who hunt pressured deer, on PUBLIC ACCESS property, that regularly kill mature bucks that the hunter was aware of before he killed it. There are simply too many variables out of the hunters control...mostly other people.

At the end of the day we are ALL hunters. We should be held responsible for making our sport look good wether helping a landowner control pests or doing our part as wildlife managers.

We all need to stick together and HAVE FUN! Life is short!
 

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