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Roost 1":26m45kra said:
If nothing else try to learn from others mistakes.

I was talking to my hard headed 18 year old about this last weekend. I told him that I'm not a great turkey hunter. Not even a good turkey hunter. I can't tell you what to do every time, but I can absolutely tell you what NOT to do, because I've made every mistake you can make in the turkey woods. Learn from my mistakes and that's a whole bunch you don't have to make yourself. But, they are young and know everything just like I did when I was that age! :tu:
 
Roost 1":3m10ly80 said:
How many will you have to lose to be convinced? Take enough shots like that and it's eventually gonna happen. It's simple do something to make him raise his head. If he is strutting he obviously does not know danger is near, so you got time. Not trying to get on you but every year you make posts about missing birds, this will only add to that number. If nothing else try to learn from others mistakes.
I never can recall missing a bird because he was strutting. Walking, brush in the way, too far, target panic, but not because one was strutting.

I post a video of a perfectly still bird getting demolished by a good shot and somehow it's unethical...

I guess I'm not the only one having a tough season


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Nice video, Cat.

You can obviously kill a turkey while in strut and even body shots at closer ranges will kill one, but the shot with the highest probability of cleanly killing one is with his neck sticking up.

Keep up the good work with that video camera!




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Your a smart guy cat but apparently missing or ignoring the point being made........never said it can't be done but it's kinda like gut shooting a deer, it's gonna die more times than not. Just hope you find it.
 
catman529":1ssu07ut said:
Roost 1":1ssu07ut said:
How many will you have to lose to be convinced? Take enough shots like that and it's eventually gonna happen. It's simple do something to make him raise his head. If he is strutting he obviously does not know danger is near, so you got time. Not trying to get on you but every year you make posts about missing birds, this will only add to that number. If nothing else try to learn from others mistakes.
I never can recall missing a bird because he was strutting. Walking, brush in the way, too far, target panic, but not because one was strutting.

I post a video of a perfectly still bird getting demolished by a good shot and somehow it's unethical...

I guess I'm not the only one having a tough season


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i know what they are saying but I would bet just as many turkeys have been wounded and/or missed with their heads stuck straight up. I would not shoot at one strutting if it was turned to the side but if it was facing me and at a reasonable distance I would let him have it with 100% confidence.
 
mathews338":xqmwpj6j said:
...... I would bet just as many turkeys have been wounded and/or missed with their heads stuck straight up.
Of course there have, there have been thousands more shot at with their head up, like 99% of veteran hunters promote. If you shoot the same number with head up as head tucked in strutting (lots of vitals protected), I can promise you more that were shot in strut would run off to die, and never be found by the hunter.
 
Andy S.":tkj4u60m said:
mathews338":tkj4u60m said:
...... I would bet just as many turkeys have been wounded and/or missed with their heads stuck straight up.
Of course there have, there have been thousands more shot at with their head up, like 99% of veteran hunters promote. If you shoot the same number with head up as head tucked in strutting (lots of vitals protected), I can promise you more that were shot in strut would run off to die, and never be found by the hunter.
vitals protected? I thought the whole purpose of shooting them head up is to only shoot the head and neck, not other vitals. In strut you lose a couple inches of the neck but still put your pattern on the majority of the neck and the entire head... Daniel shot this bird lying prone which is I think the most accurate way to shoot, hit where he was aiming and peppered everything from the wattles up to the brain...dead bird...


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catman529":36l35ehz said:
vitals protected?
Correct...vitals as in spinal cord (NECK), wind pipe, jugular vein and other arteries that equate to a quick and humane kill the majority of the time. Sorry for the confusion, should have been more clear. Bottom line, a larger "vitals" target means you miss/cripple less and you recover more birds, and especially true if you shoot numerous turkeys over numerous years.
 
Andy S.":10d152qt said:
catman529":10d152qt said:
vitals protected?
Correct...vitals as in spinal cord (NECK), wind pipe, jugular vein and other arteries that equate to a quick and humane kill the majority of the time. Sorry for the confusion, should have been more clear. Bottom line, a larger "vitals" target means you miss/cripple less and you recover more birds, and especially true if you shoot numerous turkeys over numerous years.
yea I can see that if you're pushing your max range or taking an iffy shot from brush or tall grass. In the case of this bird (and the one I killed this year) both were inside 40, more around 35 yards, and the amount of neck exposed was plenty to take a load of #6 shot. Might not have been the maximum vital area exposed but it sure was enough.


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Congrats to Fleet fox.
If you listen to all the naysayers you will need a safe space.


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Sit drag, Ernie's outdoors linesman belt,
At 20' up
 
ImThere":3b9nx9fn said:
Congrats to Fleet fox.
If you listen to all the naysayers you will need a safe space.


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Sit drag, Ernie's outdoors linesman belt,
At 20' up
if I tuck my neck up maybe I'll be safe


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Meat wasn't ruined, bird didn't suffer, great video cat...keep em coming! :super:
 
Roost 1":17orr13a said:
Your a smart guy cat but apparently missing or ignoring the point being made.

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