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Has been passed in California. Not real sure how I feel about it. I think it will forever change college football in diff ways. California is worried it will put them at recruiting disadvantages, where in my mind, I think more kids will want to sign there to get paid.

I do expect more states to follow and pass the law before it goes into effect in Cali in 2023.

Thought it may be a good discussion. Thoughts?

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Go to YouTube and look up the tour videos from the channel called COISKI.

They do tours of the athletic divisions of most of the major schools in the nation. Not only are those kids getting free rides for education, the other stuff they get is insane. The Alabama and Oklahoma facilities are just mind blowing. 110% state of the art stuff. Free shoes, clothing, gaming rooms, spas, training rooms, meals, etc. I imagine the players dorms are not low end either. They do get a lot of stuff but I don't know...I feel like they should get a little kick back from the companies that profit off their name sakes on clothing and such.
 
Crow Terminator":1a6dllhg said:
Go to YouTube and look up the tour videos from the channel called COISKI.

They do tours of the athletic divisions of most of the major schools in the nation. Not only are those kids getting free rides for education, the other stuff they get is insane. The Alabama and Oklahoma facilities are just mind blowing. 110% state of the art stuff. Free shoes, clothing, gaming rooms, spas, training rooms, meals, etc. I imagine the players dorms are not low end either. They do get a lot of stuff but I don't know...I feel like they should get a little kick back from the companies that profit off their name sakes on clothing and such.
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To be clear, I am not against the athletes getting a piece of the pie. I do think there are lots of pros and cons to it though.
 
I don't see any problems.


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Why do they need to get paid? They are going to top universities for free. Granted they worked their tails off and (most) deserve to be there, but why pay them? The way I look at it they give them the price of tuition and the opportunity to make it to the big money level. Play for love of the game not the money and fame! JMO.
 
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Why do they need to get paid? They are going to top universities for free. Granted they worked their tails off and (most) deserve to be there, but why pay them? The way I look at it they give them the price of tuition and the opportunity to make it to the big money level. Play for love of the game not the money and fame! JMO.
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TDW05":a8bb8h8y said:
Why do they need to get paid? They are going to top universities for free. Granted they worked their tails off and (most) deserve to be there, but why pay them? The way I look at it they give them the price of tuition and the opportunity to make it to the big money level. Play for love of the game not the money and fame! JMO.
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They also get Pell grants and stipends.

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None of this matters right now, it will take a decade for the courts to sort this out.

...also, probably less than 1% of all NCAA athletes are good enough/popular enough to actually make any money on their name/likeness.
 
So the state of California has decided to join the university of Alabama, & start paying players :mrgreen:

Interesting.
 
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None of this matters right now, it will take a decade for the courts to sort this out.

...also, probably less than 1% of all NCAA athletes are good enough/popular enough to actually make any money on their name/likeness.
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You're looking at it from a rational point of view. What's going to happen is now a booster can pay any player any amount of money to sit at a table and sign autographs. There doesn't have to be a market for the autograph, a player can be paid for his time at the table.

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What's to stop the NCAA from not allowing the players to play no matter what the law is? They still don't allow players to smoke pot even though it's legal in some states. It's their league, their rules. Playing college sports is a privilege, not a right.

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wayne":2apfpp3e said:
What's to stop the NCAA from not allowing the players to play no matter what the law is? They still don't allow players to smoke pot even though it's legal in some states. It's their league, their rules. Playing college sports is a privilege, not a right.

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Agree!
 
Schools that are NOT power-5 schools may as well drop down to FCS level.

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True, playing college sports is a privilege, but it is also a huge cash cow for the colleges. It's an entertainment business, plain and simple. Yes, they are getting a free ride education, but they are also putting their bodies at extreme high risk every time they step onto the field to play. Some play with the hope of making it into the professional leagues, while others just play their way through college and don't desire to go into the professional stuff.

I will use #13 Tua as an example. I just started going to the games last year and Tua is one popular dude on and off the field. Kids, youth, and even adults are wearing #13 jerseys with Tagovailoa on the back. That's probably one of the more popular jerseys you see at the Bama games...you will see people wearing them in any direction you look. The official Nike NCAA licensed ones are $90 online for them. They sell a boat load of those jokers. The white Crimson Tide offical footballs that the team signs, aren't very much. You can get them for like $30 and take them to the fan day events and have all the players sign it. They also have to do the little behind the scenes meet and greets, press stuff, etc too. It could all be over with one hit on the field, and they never even get to the Pros.
 
I am against it but if it ever happens I think it has to be regulated so no school can pay more than any other school.
 
They don't need paid it's simple....you go to play cause your good enough great, but I don't think any of them MAJOR in football. That's why when, they don't make it to then next level, they have a plan to fall back on.
 
And if sacrificing your body is enough to get paid then they need to pay high schoolers too. Just as rough as college level IMO.
 
I think what will eventually happen it that all money that is earned through player name/likenesses will be put into some sort of National trust fund that would be divided evenly among all players after they graduate. That would (or could) satisfy the NCAA rule about paying players since they wouldn't actually be paid while they are a player. It would also keep schools with big donors from using Pay for play to lure recruits to their school. It would also prevent wealthy schools having a recruiting advantage merely because they can pay more.

...but there are still Title 9 issues. The Trust might have to include all athletes, instead of a Football Trust and a Basketball trust you might have to have a Trust that includes and pays all players the same even though the equestrian team doesn't generate any money.

Having said that, I have always wondered why a Top-end Mechanical Engineer on scholarship (or any other non athlete major) can work a side job while in school and earn money but an athlete cannot. It just doesn't seem fair.
 

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